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Points: 212 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:35
Great to know,  however like all recordings, I won't automatically assume it will be great just because of the name (I been burned by this before).
 
I've made mistakes on where to post with limited time on computer, so I understand.
 
P.S. Most likely VDGG will come across the pond in the summer where the weather is better on the travel and playing, espcially if playing outdoor venues like certain jazz or bluesfests
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No date in france , so sad!! i'll go to the nederland, isaw them several times on stage in france in the seventies
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Points: 5482 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 14:56
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by UndercoverBoy UndercoverBoy wrote:

A new CD, live DVD, and tour?  This is epic beyond comprehension.


The only thing that would make this better is if it were Kansas.  Tongue
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Van der Graaf Generator are fulfilling their tradition of recording 4 studio albums with every reunion. The big question for me is whether "Present" should count as one or two albums?
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Originally posted by esotericarts esotericarts wrote:

 

 

 the stunning new album is the 12th studio record by the band


 


Eh 12th ?!
Is there a secret VDGG studio album no one knows about?

And without David Jackson again? Doesn't that count as only half an album?
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Way ahead of you there, buddy! LOL
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

I found Trisector to be rather disappointing overall, but I still have high hopes for this album.

Me too on both counts. To me the absence of David Jackson is just too problematic. Just *gotta* have those saxes or it ain't really VdGG to my mind. But I'll give the guys one more chance and get the new one anyway. I'll even be terribly oldschool and pay for it.

(BTW I recently created a page on the recorded works of PH/VdGG that some people might find interesting and useful. I'd greatly appreciate any feedback anyone might have on it.



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I actually don't mind Jackson's absence at all. the base of the music has always been guitar/piano, drums, and organ, even on the earlier albums. Jackson's contributions were more of a dressing than anything.

And while they could have easily hired Theo Travis or someone else to replace him, I kind of like the idea of stubbornly letting a severed limb remain severed, rather than get an artificial one.




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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I actually don't mind Jackson's absence at all. the base of the music has always been guitar/piano, drums, and organ, even on the earlier albums. Jackson's contributions were more of a dressing than anything.

And while they could have easily hired Theo Travis or someone else to replace him, I kind of like the idea of stubbornly letting a severed limb remain severed, rather than get an artificial one.

I think your opinion is probably the majority one, which is a big reason the band carries on - and I'm glad they do. But for me Jaxon wasn't mere dressing, he was absolutely essential/core, especially when he'd play the two saxes simultaneously in chorus with Hugh's organ - just a massive wall of unique sound for which there's no substitute. But that's my own opinion and there's no right/wrong about it. Smile
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I actually don't mind Jackson's absence at all. the base of the music has always been guitar/piano, drums, and organ, even on the earlier albums. Jackson's contributions were more of a dressing than anything.

And while they could have easily hired Theo Travis or someone else to replace him, I kind of like the idea of stubbornly letting a severed limb remain severed, rather than get an artificial one.


I actually agree with you there - better to have no Jackson at all than some hired hand doing a poor imitation (take note, Yes). My main problem with Trisector was that I found the songwriting to just be somewhat lacking. Sure, Present was patchy but it still had some real stand-out songs which have gone on to be an essential part of VDGG's repertoire. If I went to a VDGG and they neglected to play either Every Bloody Emperor or Nutter Alert I'd be just as gutted as if they didn't play anything from Pawn Hearts! Everything on Trisector was pretty forgettable by comparison.
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Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

I actually don't mind Jackson's absence at all. the base of the music has always been guitar/piano, drums, and organ, even on the earlier albums. Jackson's contributions were more of a dressing than anything.

And while they could have easily hired Theo Travis or someone else to replace him, I kind of like the idea of stubbornly letting a severed limb remain severed, rather than get an artificial one.


I actually agree with you there - better to have no Jackson at all than some hired hand doing a poor imitation (take note, Yes). My main problem with Trisector was that I found the songwriting to just be somewhat lacking. Sure, Present was patchy but it still had some real stand-out songs which have gone on to be an essential part of VDGG's repertoire. If I went to a VDGG and they neglected to play either Every Bloody Emperor or Nutter Alert I'd be just as gutted as if they didn't play anything from Pawn Hearts! Everything on Trisector was pretty forgettable by comparison.


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Had a scan through the new issues of Uncut and Mojo in the supermarket yesterday and both review the new album.

Mojo gives a very positive 4* review. I can't remember what it said exactly but I'm sure it said something about the album being very melodic.

Uncut gives a more guarded 3* 'for fans only' type of review.

Anyway, nice to see some mention of it at all.
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In case anyone is interested, there are some samples on amazon.com. 
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Awesome
 
If Hammill ever sees this can you play the following:
 
 
Pawn Hearts - whole album

Killer

Lost

Every Bloody Emperor

Nutter Alert

Godbluff – whole album

Cats Eye

Darkness 11/11

La Rossa

Still Life

Masks

Scorched earth

Necromancer

Theme One

Plus heaps of new tracks from new album

not asking much

That’ll do for a start.
 
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Awesome
 
If Hammill ever sees this can you play the following:
 
 
Pawn Hearts - whole album

Killer

Lost

Every Bloody Emperor

Nutter Alert

Godbluff – whole album

Cats Eye

Darkness 11/11

La Rossa

Still Life

Masks

Scorched earth

Necromancer

Theme One

Plus heaps of new tracks from new album

not asking much

That’ll do for a start.
 
 
There are some great tracks missing in your list :
 
After the flood
The emperor in his war room
Pioneers over C
When she comes
Murglys III
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Anyone gotten a hold of the album yet? What does everyone think? I just posted my first review on the site for it!
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I heard four tracks from the new album on Stuart Maconie's Freak Zone last night and they just blew me away. If those four are anything to go by then this is a huge step up from Trisector. Nothing forgettable about those songs - chunks of them have been rattling around in my head all day!
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If you have a Zune Pass...its available for download on the Zune Marketplace, if not you have to pay for it. I just downloaded....will listen later this evening.
Seems like everyone thinks its a step up from Trisector??
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