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crimhead
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 13:14 |
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micky
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 15:47 |
ELO all the way.... Micky does love those cape wearing cello and violin players...
and props to Roll Over Beethoven having one of the single greatest rock violin solos of all time... demonic!!! |
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Kazuhiro
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 18:48 |
The album of Chicago of the fourth piece is my favorite.
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Hyardacil
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Posted: August 25 2009 at 03:54 |
ELO, definitely.
The early works from them are definitely proggy. I don't like the later pop ones either much. But Overture 10538... C'mon. Cellos acting as electic guitar's... some notes from the trumpet. Truly has a symphonic feel to it. And there have been other great tracks as well. Check out Battle for Marson Moor for example. What other rock band has a piece just for cellos? EDIT: ... oh yeah... right. Well I'll discount them as I don't like them... Edited by Hyardacil - August 25 2009 at 03:54 |
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marktheshark
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Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:39 |
I don't know how you can possibly compare the two! They're miles apart IMO. One is more in line with big-band-jazz and pop, the other is more in line with symphonic classical sounds. Whatever!
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moshkito
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 10:13 |
Hi,
I think Chicago deserves a lot more respect than they get, and in many ways they were progressive when no one else was, and in their first two albums you can check out long cuts ... and they are very good, and not just jams ... in other words, deserve the credit for being progressive, or at least for wanting to take their music further than simply the pop music market.
With all due respect, ELO is very good, but simply a pop band, and nothing else, and they never really produced anything that was more than just pop ... yes, it was adventurous and better defined and well constructed instrumentation, highly influenced by classical music ... but how would they compare to Chicago?
I would think they do not at all ... but I am not sure that anyone in this board has the first 5 albums by Chicago (I still do!) ... they are all worth it, and the long cuts are very good all around. Specially the first album (the dark covered one) ... which is sensational and then some ... and should be considered a prog classic ... period!
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Also interesting and was rather off-key and somewhat progressive (is there such a thing?) were The Sons of Champlin (the leader of which was to join Chicago way later on!), and then Ides of March ... which had a hit single, but a much better album with a killer version of Eleanor Rigby on it! These were about the same as Chicago, not "progressive and out there" like a KC for example, but they were breaking away the bonds in rock music and taking long cuts into nice areas, that were not just "jams" .... these were more jazz oriented in my ear, but still free, and unlike the San Francisco jams that were more off key and sometimes not as interesting, but at times far out and off the wall ... in a way the ones from these groups were more formulaic and much easier to handle and ... sometimes I like to say ... had less dope in them than other musics. Edited by moshkito - September 01 2009 at 10:38 |
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 10:17 |
I actually have all of the Chicago studio albums from the CTA album through the Stone of Sisyphus that was finally released last year.
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Rank1
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 11:54 |
Both had great drummers but I think early Chicago were more groundbreaking. Jimi Hendrix really liked the guitarist on Chicago. I like ELO more but they admit they were just extending what the Beatles did on "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "I Am the Walrus".
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Teh_Slippermenz
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Posted: September 06 2009 at 01:50 |
LOL, ELO by far.
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The Block
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Posted: September 16 2009 at 19:50 |
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J-Man
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Posted: September 16 2009 at 19:51 |
ELO. Early Chicago is excellent (probably better than any ELO), but ELO has more solid albums.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: September 16 2009 at 20:38 |
Chicago is probably BETTER.....
....but, come on, ELO is just so much more FUN.
Seriously though, ELO by a longshot.
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sixpack127
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Posted: December 22 2009 at 19:16 |
I found the CTA at the library when I was young and immediately fell in love with the brass (I was a trumpeter), but then I found ELO and found their sounds were a much more mature - Chicago was great but ELO was much better.
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Intruder
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Posted: December 23 2009 at 21:10 |
Chicago has really suffered from their extreme turn from revolutionaries to reactionaries. Their first three albums are absolutely progressive - and have a decidedly open anti-establishment message: Revolution now! Change the world! The whole world's watching! They did side long suites about motorboats to Mars, political and spiritual liberation, and the evolution of man.....they also fried speakers with acid guitars and blaring horn lines. They were amazingly tight and far-out frantic at the same time.....anybody who's not clued into the first three Chicago albums ought to at least give 'em a try.
I'm a fan, so V thru Hot Street at least have a bit of the spark of the first three, but those unititiated should go directly to the first three.....I'm partial to the third album - fantastic harmonies but a bit of fat at the end (that suite on the evolution of man that I spoke of earlier.....eeek! But still a million miles away from those Peter Cetera 80s ballads).
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: January 03 2010 at 07:25 |
ELO by a comfortable margin. Eldorado and New World Record are albums that are very close to my heart.
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Posted: January 03 2010 at 07:59 |
I will stick to my side of the Atlantic on this one - as with a lot of votes (Not all before you start throwing eggs). ELO were a little proggy once and when they went pop I still enjoyed a lot I don't think they took themselves too seriously. |
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FusionKing
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 23:48 |
Well, these are two bands which I don't know well. However, I'm going to go with E.L.O. simply because thier 'Time' album was stunning and some of Chicago's stuff that I've heard so far (late 70's) bores me somewhat.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 07:32 |
ELO lost it when Roy Wood left....
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 11:45 |
ELO is a music of my late teens... But looking from now Chicago is much more interesting ( I am speaking about debut plus a few more earlier albums, for sure). Voted for Chicago
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Juiceboxbiotch
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 17:42 |
Early live Chicago is fantastic... ELO was always cool or whatever but just based on those early live performances I gotta go with Chicago.
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