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JLocke 
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 Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:00 |
 aginor wrote:
i think many of his songs have an Epic feel like Earth Song, and he was under the record label Epic Records
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Epic =/= Prog
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:09 |
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I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz?
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:12 |
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there are differnt deffinitian in my head disribing epic (HIS NOT PROG OR RELATED)
1. 10-20 minus songs
2. big poverfull music, slove pace, majestic drums.
3 synth or orchestras in the background, hartfelt singing
4 grandiose.
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:17 |
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hahahhah. Yeah...same with Willie Nelson.
to stay in the spirit of the thread... and forgetting prog completely. It is a NITCH genre of music. The fact that neither have anything to do with prog in NO way diminishes their greatness .. or influence on music at all. Prog is a boil on the ass of music at large. A pleasant one... but insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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Jozef
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:18 |
Somehow I had a feeling there was going to be a "Is Michael Jackson prog?" thread.  My answer is simply no, not at all. He was not 'prog' in any way. He was a pop artist.
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Icarium
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:18 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz? |
Michal Jakson is a much bigger force in the music universe then Eminem, Eminem is reaching Jackson to his anckles. and hade a much longer career from 1968 - 2001/09 including both Jackson 5 and solo as a bass player i find a lot of the Jackson 5s bass lines to be some of the best in the buisness. i dont now hwo play bass its ether on of the jacksons ot James Jamersen
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:28 |
aginor wrote:
StyLaZyn wrote:
I can't believe this thread. Does Eminem influence Jazz? |
Michal Jakson is a much bigger force in the music universe then Eminem, Eminem is reaching Jackson to his anckles.
and hade a much longer career from 1968 - 2001/09 including both Jackson 5 and solo as a bass player i find a lot of the Jackson 5s bass lines to be some of the best in the buisness. i dont now hwo play bass its ether on of the jacksons ot James Jamersen
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I will agree with you that MJ had more influence that Eminem ever will.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 14:44 |
Michael Jackson apparently used to listen to fusion and owned an ISOTOPE album.This was back in the seventies of course.It was all down hill from there. 
I do have some appreciation and respect for Stevie Wonder's music,can't say the same for Michael regardless of how talented he was.
Edited by sinkadotentree - June 26 2009 at 18:08
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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tamijo
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 16:28 |
Hell no, not even now that he is suddently interesting again 
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Evolver
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 16:53 |
While Frank Zappa did have his band play Billie Jean on stage, I wouldn't go as far as saying it influenced him.
OTOH, I would say that Michael Jackson had a profound influence on comedy.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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jammun
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:45 |
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He had about as much influence on prog as Farrah Fawcett.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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J-Man
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:57 |
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No
He's a pop musician. There's no way in hell a guy who does the moonwalk on stage influenced progressive rock.
I don't mind some of his music, but influencing prog? You've got to be kidding.
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American Khatru
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:04 |
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So the debate raging in my office this morning is whether he was the biggest influence on music since The Beatles. I said, no, he didn't influence mine. I honestly can't think of ANY way he put his mark on prog. Thoughts?
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You can't think of ANY way because there IS no way. No. I'm curious. You say the debate was raging and you "said" MJ had no influence on your kind of music. When you said that, what did they say? Did anyone say, "yeah, he probably didn't have much influence in Prague." Seriously, what was their reaction?
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 Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?
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The T
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:08 |
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I nominate Michael Jackson for Symphonic Prog... if we ever do multi-genre, an "avant-garde" gtag would also fit...
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:07 |
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In some soft songs he was influenced by bossanova ,jazzsoul,but not prog ,.
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:15 |
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oh brother... no wonder this site has a reputation for being a black hole for real musical discussion.
the question is NOT whether Michael Jackson influenced prog.... but whether his lack of influence in it keeps him from being considered as influential as an artist like the Beatles.
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:18 |
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Like the Beatles? ,...never
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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micky
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:21 |
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in that point I agree... and probably most would. While Michael Jackson does have a massive influence on popular music... it doesn't compare to the Beatles. If anyone bothered to read the original post... that was the question. Not whether Michael Jackson influenced prog. That was part of the OP's point... that he didn't...Duh....
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jammun
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:23 |
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Like the Beatles? ,...never |
The Beatles influence cast a wider net. But I'd think one could make an argument (I won't, not here) that the progression of POP music influence goes something like Elvis, The Beatles, Michael Jackson.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:26 |
^ exactly Jim.  He is in the ballpark with the greatest of all. That is why we are all talking about him... that is why EVERYONE has been...all over the world. Don't kid yourself that it is because of the last years of his life... at a time like this... all that is forgotten... and everyone remembers just why he became the legend he was.
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