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Negoba
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 20:29 |
Memorize this if you haven't already for guitar
-----flat 2nd---------2nd------------Minor 3rd-----Maj 3rd---4th-------tritone-------5th
-----Minor 6th------Major 6th-----Minor 7th-----Maj 7th----Root----flat 2nd------2nd
-----Minor 3rd------Major 3d-----4th--------------tritone-----5th------Minor 6th----Major 6th
-----Minor 7th------Major 7th-----Root-----------flat 2nd----2nd-----Minor 3rd----Major3rd
You probably already know it.....but if you don't it will change your life.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 20:36 |
Learn to play Roundabout.
Thats all the advice I can give on bass...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 01:20 |
I'm going to assume, from previous conversations, you're getting a bass
more so because you need something for recording rather than wanting to
be the next Billy Sheehan.
Just going through a lot of scale exercises as you would on a guitar or
whatever helps, obviously instead picking with a pick just via the
fingers.
It's obvious, but just record yourself playing and listen to picking and fretting hand consistency.
Be wary about playing the F Major scale starting on the first fret, 3
note per string pattern ascending/descending starting on the E string,
because that is quite a big stretch on a scale length like that. It's
entirely possible, even for a guy with medium sized hands like me, but
I don't recommend you make it part of your daily regime unless you want
to injure yourself. Of course you can learn to do it via the low B string and ascending from there.
When you play 3 note per string stuff, try to stick with A major (when
starting on the E string) and higher, still a good stretch but nothing
that will risk injury.
And why not learn YYZ? No one says you have to learn it all full speed
first off. You can slow the song down by 30 per cent of whatever, and
learn it that way. FWIW, my friend has that exact same bass, they have decent playability for what they are, you should enjoy it.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 03:30 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
I'm going to assume, from previous conversations, you're getting a bass
more so because you need something for recording rather than wanting to
be the next Billy Sheehan.
Just going through a lot of scale exercises as you would on a guitar or
whatever helps, obviously instead picking with a pick just via the
fingers.
It's obvious, but just record yourself playing and listen to picking and fretting hand consistency.
Of course the first step will be to develop the proper picking/fretting hand coordination ... I guess it will take me quite a while until I even manage to play an alternating line of E and B with proper intonation. I already tested it on the guitar ... what I'm wondering is: how do I stop the notes with the right hand? I pluck the E string with the index finger, the only way to stop it is to put the same finger on the string again?
Be wary about playing the F Major scale starting on the first fret, 3
note per string pattern ascending/descending starting on the E string,
because that is quite a big stretch on a scale length like that. It's
entirely possible, even for a guy with medium sized hands like me, but
I don't recommend you make it part of your daily regime unless you want
to injure yourself. Of course you can learn to do it via the low B string and ascending from there.
When you play 3 note per string stuff, try to stick with A major (when
starting on the E string) and higher, still a good stretch but nothing
that will risk injury.
Well, I already play Hot For Teacher on the guitar and never had any physical problems. But I know what you mean ... well, I think that I'll move the hand and/or do slides rather than trying to use the same 3 note per string scales that I use on the guitar.
And why not learn YYZ? No one says you have to learn it all full speed
first off. You can slow the song down by 30 per cent of whatever, and
learn it that way. FWIW, my friend has that exact same bass, they have decent playability for what they are, you should enjoy it.
Maybe I'll start with an easier song - like Pink Floyd - Money.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 03:47 |
Negoba wrote:
Memorize this if you haven't already for guitar
-----flat 2nd---------2nd------------Minor 3rd-----Maj 3rd---4th-------tritone-------5th
-----Minor 6th------Major 6th-----Minor 7th-----Maj 7th----Root----flat 2nd------2nd
-----Minor 3rd------Major 3d-----4th--------------tritone-----5th------Minor 6th----Major 6th
-----Minor 7th------Major 7th-----Root-----------flat 2nd----2nd-----Minor 3rd----Major3rd
You probably already know it.....but if you don't it will change your life. |
Thanks! Yes, I already know it ... I've been practicing scales for about 20 years. I agree, it's very important to know the intervals, especially for bass lines. I've always been consciously listening to to the bass lines in my favorite music. I think my main problem will be the finger picking/plucking technique.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 22 2009 at 05:22 |
Finally ... the bass arrived this morning. Unfortunately I only had about 15 minutes to play it before work ... I can't wait to plug it in. Only about 7 hours to go ...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 22 2009 at 06:02 |
Err Mike, The Hot For Teacher stretches aren't that big anyway, at least not compared to a 1st-3rd-5th fret stretch on a bass
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 22 2009 at 06:45 |
^ they're relatively big stretches for guitarists though, at least on standard scale guitars (25,5"). Like I said earlier: I don't think that I'll be using three note per string scales on the bass. I think the standard 2/3 note per strings scales will suffice ... except for the higher regions of the fretboard.
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