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Poll Question: You listen to some album in English. Do you understand much?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
16 [33.33%]
9 [18.75%]
1 [2.08%]
6 [12.50%]
13 [27.08%]
3 [6.25%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 02:26
I'm bilingual. Can I vote?  Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 08:06
English is an easy language to understand, compared to some other languages (I did French for 6 years in high school, followed an extra course, and where I live I hear French almost every day, and still it's difficult to master it well.).

I understand the biggest part of what I hear, and from what I don't understand, the biggest part is because of people not articulating well, but I still learn new words through prog and other music.

I voted "everything" because that comes closest. It's seldom that I need a lyric sheet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 10:41

I voted for number 5 - need help only when lyrics are complicated.

Usually I don't use a lyric sheet but I hate it when it's missing cause sometimes I don't get the exact word and then I take out the sheet and get the idea. For example I thought that the word in JT's "Wind up" were :

"Your'e a poorer man than me cause you lick the boots of death for not a thing" but when I checked it I found out that the ending is "born out of fear".

The meaning did not change dramatucaly but still .....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 11:14
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I'm bilingual. Can I vote?  Big smile


depends on whether English is one of your language, and you've been bilingual for all your life. That would kind of make you a native English speaker, wouldn't it?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:22
I voted "I need lyric sheet". It depends on the singer, sometimes I understand most of the lyrics but I like listen to music with the booklet to read the lyrics ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:34
Well I lived in England for 1 year and a half, without that short-living I would be needing studying English in school. I mean, I do have English in school, but talking in english in a country for 1 year and a half, makes it so easy.

Obviously, for lyrics and some other kind of stuff, I sometimes PREFER lyric sheet, and in TV case, subtitles but in english. I suppose this is 'Other'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:42
Fifth option, I guess.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 18:22
I generally understand everything, but sometimes it can be hard to hear what a singer is singing because of the way he/she sings it, or because of production issues. But this can be the case with Swedish (my mother tongue) lyrics too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2009 at 12:37
Lyrics sheet and dictionnary, especially if I'm listening to Yes (Anderson, what do your lyrics mean???) or Napalm Death and Carcass (not only the vocals, but above all for the vocabulary!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2009 at 14:28
I started to understand more as my english got better - after 7 years I understand almost everything but I never pay attention so it really doesn't matter. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2009 at 16:35

I focus more on the melodies myself, although I do understand very much english!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2009 at 22:53
Lyrics and sometimes a  dictionary ,for some words
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2009 at 13:36
I have never had any trouble understanding English. I have looked up certain words every now and then mostly of curiosity, like Schizoid and Equilibrium. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2009 at 17:18
I chose option number 5. I mostly understand everything but, every now and then, a word, play on word, reference, mispronunciation, etc pops in and I don't get it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:28
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

First option for me. I only have trouble understanding lyrics in English when the singer has a distinctive vocal style (e.g. death growls) which makes understanding hard even for native speakers. 
Satan vocalsEvil Smile. A lot of bands` lyrics are almost impossible to understand particularily bands whos mother tongue is not English.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2009 at 15:55
Viva Mexico!!!!!!
and Russia too if you want

I need lyric sheet only, and once again... Viva Mexico
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2009 at 16:23
^ Viva Mexico and all other countries too! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2009 at 21:11
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Of course, I'm not including black or death metal albums here... If anyone can understand more than 1.76 % of what Cannibal Corpse is singing about, please... I'll take whatever you're taking... Tongue

While not true for Cannibal Corpse, I do understand about 50% of the English lyrics in the more famous black metal bands. You get used to it.
The more mid range clearer growls like melodeath are exactly the same as most singers with a slightly more difficult accent.

Anyway, I don't usually listen to lyrics, but if I do, I get most of it. A lot is depending on the mix, though, and the problems that may arise are because of my inability to hear the word, not to understand what it means. I have a similar stance in German, although I will hear lyrics even if I don't listen, unlike in English where it stays an instrument for the duration of listening unless I want it to be something else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 19:14
Pretty much everything. I mean, of course, there are singers like Cedric Bixler which are sometimes borderline understandable (I doubt a native english speaker can "get it" all), but other than that, yes... everything
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 15:49
Speaking english when your mother tongue is some other idiom is more commonplace today than before (merci, Internet, gracias) . I am amazed that so many non-english PA members use Shakespeare's tongue so eloquently. Mind you there are a few who need a decoder but vive la difference!
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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