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akiko 
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 Posted: November 16 2008 at 21:16 |
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FYI, Roine Stolt played 12 string acoustic guitar, lead guitar and mellotron on that Blue Hawaii track.
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Frasse
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Posted: November 17 2008 at 08:10 |
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^ I didn't mean to isolate the phenomenon, just add it as a counterweight to the horrible dansband music  |
When I was young, my mother told me I could listen to any music I wanted except for Dansband.
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SouthSideoftheSky
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 18:01 |
My theory is that it is soooo boring to live in Sweden, that starting a band and playing music is pretty much the only thing you can do there, especielly in the country side (from which I come).
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 18:55 |
I'm pretty sure it's some kind of Swedish conspiracy.  Meatballs anyone? 
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 18 2008 at 18:56
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 18:56 |
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Because they're not grim and frostbitten enough to play trve kvlt black metal?
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The T
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Posted: November 19 2008 at 14:27 |
^ False. Scandinavians have this weird association with metal music... Sweden has the melodic death metal scene, with the Gothemburg sound as the big alternative for Florida style death metal of the 90's (one of my home state's only contributions to the world of... anything.. oh wait, our oranges are the best!  ) Now it's in Norway wgere we can find the true Black Metal experience, from Mayhem and Euronymous and so on....
It may be the cold, the fog, the lakes, I don't know.
But as for prog music, it's obvious from reading Trademark's post where the reason lies:
THE GOVERNMENT!
SOCIALISM FOR THE MASSES, PROG FOR THEM ALL!!
(not really... I haven't heard many bands from N.Korea or Cuba..)
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Philéas
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Posted: November 19 2008 at 16:25 |
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Sweden hasn't been a socialist country since the 60's....And even then, it wasn't a full-fledged one.
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SouthSideoftheSky
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Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:34 |
Well, I think that Sweden is a very socialist country. Not in the real sense, of course, but we have very high taxes and much government controll over the economy, extensive social welfare etc. etc.
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patrickhassani
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Posted: November 20 2008 at 00:26 |
I'm pretty sure it's because there are so many beautiful women in Sweden that the musician's don't have to play pop-rock in order to get a good looking girlfriend. So in turn, they actually learn to play good music. Either that, or it's because Swedish folk music rules....
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The T
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Posted: November 20 2008 at 15:28 |
patrickhassani wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's because there are so many beautiful women in Sweden that the musician's don't have to play pop-rock in order to get a good looking girlfriend. So in turn, they actually learn to play good music.
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That;s actually the most intelligent answer ever....
The problem with this theory is that there are also many beautiful women in places like the US, but we still have a poor prog-per-capita ratio... 
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patrickhassani
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Posted: November 21 2008 at 01:17 |
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That;s actually the most intelligent answer ever....
The problem with this theory is that there are also many beautiful women in places like the US, but we still have a poor prog-per-capita ratio... |
It's true, there are tons of beautiful women in the US, but the amount of them compared to the amount of us ugly guys is not so great. In sweden, all the girls are gorgeous, and all the men are ugly, so there's a garauntee that you'll land a good looking one. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe. It makes me have hopes that when my prog band goes to sweden I'll find a wife for myself.
Edited by patrickhassani - November 21 2008 at 01:18
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Philéas
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Posted: November 21 2008 at 10:43 |
patrickhassani wrote:
In sweden, all the girls are gorgeous, and all the men are ugly,
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Huge lie. Just in case anyone took that seriously.
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Carbon
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Posted: November 23 2008 at 13:58 |
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CPicard wrote:
[QUOTE=jplanet]I think it's one of the few countries where a prog musician can still actually make a living... |
Since when being a musician can make a living??? Especially, a musician working in such a disliked genre as prog rock?! |
I remember Mikael Akerfeldt (from Opeth) saying recently that he earns 1300 euros a month by selling CDs (which does not seem to be much in Sweden. Hopefully he has also revenues from live shows). And Opeth is a big band... I think the flower kings are starving, it must be why they release so much albums and belong to so many bands! Steven Wilson also said that until In Absentia it was quite difficult to do whatever he wanted to do...
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CCVP
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 07:30 |
stonebeard wrote:
Because they're not grim and frostbitten enough to play trve kvlt black metal? |
definitely this
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CCVP
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 07:33 |
The T wrote:
patrickhassani wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's because there are so many beautiful women in Sweden that the musician's don't have to play pop-rock in order to get a good looking girlfriend. So in turn, they actually learn to play good music.
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That;s actually the most intelligent answer ever....
The problem with this theory is that there are also many beautiful women in places like the US, but we still have a poor prog-per-capita ratio... |
Gotta agree with you T. If that was actually the truth, Brazil would be a prog paradise, lol
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CPicard
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 12:42 |
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XunknownX
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Posted: December 01 2008 at 20:37 |
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One explaination could be that we have that special dark mood in our veins. Northern folkmusic is really amazing and many of us can handle complicated music without getting bored (although I wish more could).
Edited by XunknownX - December 01 2008 at 20:38
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Borris
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 02:46 |
Sweden produces a lot of good progressive rock.
Can some one give me some explanation as to why?
How is progressive rock looked on in Sweden? Is it considered as uncool as it is in many other parts of the world?
Are there large audiences for Progressive rock in Sweden?
An outline of the history and origins of Progressive Rock in Sweden, would be great.
I'd be particularly keen to hear views from Swedish posters.
Thanks in advance.
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Borris
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 05:29 |
Borris wrote:
Sweden produces a lot of good progressive rock.
Can some one give me some explanation as to why?
How is progressive rock looked on in Sweden? Is it considered as uncool as it is in many other parts of the world?
Are there large audiences for Progressive rock in Sweden?
An outline of the history and origins of Progressive Rock in Sweden, would be great.
I'd be particularly keen to hear views from Swedish posters.
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I see there is a thread here already. And many of my questions have been answered in advance. Interesting thread. Would it be right then to say that in the face of Dansband anything else is cool? Nobody in Sweden could think Progressive music was uncool if they had heard any Dansband music in the last month. Seems like it might be a due to the fact that the Swedish musicians are so well trained, progressive rock music may be the kind of music well trained musicians make when they decide to play.
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TheDrake
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 04:00 |
CPicard wrote:
jplanet wrote:
I think it's one of the few countries where a prog musician can still actually make a living...
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Since when being a musician can make a living??? Especially, a musician working in such a disliked genre as prog rock?!
More seriously, I doubt it. I don't think that the musicians from Anglagard, Anekdoten, Flower Kings or others are on the poverty line, but I would be curious to see their monthly wages. Not as high as the ones of the ABBA, Ace of Base or Roxette members, I guess...
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You are right. I can tell you that the prog rock guys here in Sweden do not make much money at all. Maybe there are a few that do not have a job on the side. And you cannot compare with Ace of Base and so on, those people are ecenomicall independent for the rest of their lives. It's another world. Totally.
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Wonder why so many prog bands come from Sweden?
