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tuxon 
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 Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:46 |
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:54 |
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I think Spock's Beard was really close to "next classic prog band." But when Neal Morse left, that thought/hope/idea was over. Now they're just pretty good.
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Abbath
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:55 |
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None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:13 |
 Abbath wrote:
None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Ture, but there's not a single genre of music who had their peak during the 70's that has been re-created (When's the last time your heard a Blues Rock band as good as Zeppelin
You really should try to open your mind a bit more. Yeah, TMV are a hard listen at times, but many of the other artists are making great music as well.
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threefates
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:00 |
Dream Theater are in no way becoming the next ELP... they don't have a composer!!
Porcupine Tree is great... just not really prog anymore. Their early years were somewhat spacey, but they've most into basic rock these days also.. with a little prog overtones...
The Flower Kings get real poppy at times...
Spocks Beard's last album was better than I thought it was going to be (Never liked them before)
However, I think there are quite a few other bands that could grow into the best prog of this millennium...
You should check out French TV
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gdub411
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:03 |
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience ....It would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door a bit, however.
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valravennz
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:04 |
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I voted Radiohead because they are regarded in many circles as almost at classic status now. I would like to see The Flower Kings and Porcupine Tree become classic in status. DT and TMV are never going to get there - imo they are simply not good enough to be revered in 50 years time...
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Peter
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:21 |
Other: IQ for me.
OK, they are pretty derivitive, and Mars Volta may be the "future," but what I heard did nothing for me (beyond irritate me).... 
Still, I won't write them off yet -- maybe I'll be more receptive to their charms in the future.
 Oh -- Godspeed You Black Emperor really impressed me, and they are quite different, no?
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tuxon
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:36 |
IQ misses a general appeal I think, like Pendragon and probably Arena, their to much in a niche to really claim the classic status.
After Marillion though, IQ is I think the most succesfull progband arising in the early eighties, and maintaining a reasonable high profile in the past twenty years.
Don't like GYBE, listened to it the other day, downloaded some songs, doubt I will ever buy it, maybe on a real good sale (below €8,00)
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 21:44 |
Arsillus wrote:
I think Spock's Beard was really close to "next classic prog band." But when Neal Morse left, that thought/hope/idea was over. Now they're just pretty good. |
Exactly my thought.
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valravennz
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Posted: April 18 2005 at 22:10 |
Peter wrote:
Other: IQ for me.
OK, they are pretty derivitive, and Mars Volta may be the "future," but what I heard did nothing for me (beyond irritate me)....
Still, I won't write them off yet -- maybe I'll be more receptive to their charms in the future.
Oh -- Godspeed You Black Emperor really impressed me, and they are quite different, no?
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From what I have listened to GYBE are really impressive and well... hard to catagorize in many ways. They remind me a little of "Apocalyptica" a string quartet who have done impressions of Metallica and other rock bands. Not quite easy to slot into one particular catagory but I find both a fascinating and challenging listening experience .
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Deadwing12
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 10:57 |
gdub411 wrote:
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true
classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on
his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience....It
would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some
extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and
Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel
they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think
the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on
us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock
to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door
a bit, however. |
I don't know why the next band to gain classic status would have to be
so new... After all, in one of the most Recent Rolling Stone magazines,
they named the top 100 Immortals in the music industry, and Radiohead
clocked in at aorund number 65...right behind AC/DC, so Hell...they're
probably already modern classics, though not so much in the prog world.
The term "classic" doesn't necessarily mean quality. It could mean that
a certain band made enough of an impact to be remembered for many years
because they were unique and had a lot of fans, and also set a
benchmark for many following bands. For that reason, both Dream Theater
and (hopefully) the Mars Volta will be the most revered on this list...
Also, Radiohead's already modern classic status in the rock world
doesn't necessairly mean it will make it in the prog world...Led
Zepplin is a Classic band, but not in the realm of prog
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Keke
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:12 |
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I -would- say Opeth, but since I know just how much chance metal has to become a classic, I'll have to name Porcupine Tree.
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topographic2112
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:12 |
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All of the above, IMO. I voted for TMV.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:37 |
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Other!!! My vote goes to GYBE! or Paatos.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Abbath
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:54 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
Abbath wrote:
None of these bands come even remotely close to the heights reached in the early-mid 70's.
The band that leads this poll, The Mars Volta, is IMO horrible and not even worth mention.
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Ture, but there's not a single genre of music who had their peak
during the 70's that has been re-created (When's the last time your
heard a Blues Rock band as good as Zeppelin
You really should try to open your mind a bit more. Yeah, TMV
are a hard listen at times, but many of the other artists are making
great music as well.
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My mind is plenty open. I've given both De-Loused and Frances a few
good listens after reading about how amaizng the albums were and I just
didn't like the albums at all.
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Valarius
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 14:55 |
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Dream Theater.
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Logos
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:24 |
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Based on success, I think it has to be The Mars Volta. After all, their
new album Frances the Mute was a huge commercial success, they we're
number 4 on the Billboard list, and that is extremely well for a prog
band. So they're albums might become well-known favourites not only
among progheads, but also among the average music consumers.
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gdub411
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:42 |
Deadwing12 wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
tuxon wrote:
Personally I like to think of Arena as a somewhat classic progband, but maybe i'm biased, being a big fan.
Dream Theater is well on the way of becoming the next ELP. Always quit while your ahead my father used to tell me.
Don't know the other bands, only by name. i think a true classic band is known by almost everybody, so maybe Arena isn't well on his way also, can't tell, but the others most certainly are not.
rule of tumb. If Tuxon doesn't know it. it can't be popular
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I love Arena...unfortunately I do not think they have the following to berst out into the mainstream conscience....It would have to be a band that has caught the public eye to some extent....as well as relatively new(so that rules out Dream Theatre and Radiohead)...wich means perhaps The Mars Volta....personally I feel they are too dissonent to really capture the public ear...I still think the band is yet to come....but very soon...perhaps it will sneak up on us as did Nirvana when they kicked open the door for Alternative rock to become mainstream....I think The Mars Volta will crack open the door a bit, however.
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I don't know why the next band to gain classic status would have to be so new... After all, in one of the most Recent Rolling Stone magazines, they named the top 100 Immortals in the music industry, and Radiohead clocked in at aorund number 65...right behind AC/DC, so Hell...they're probably already modern classics, though not so much in the prog world.
The term "classic" doesn't necessarily mean quality. It could mean that a certain band made enough of an impact to be remembered for many years because they were unique and had a lot of fans, and also set a benchmark for many following bands. For that reason, both Dream Theater and (hopefully) the Mars Volta will be the most revered on this list... Also, Radiohead's already modern classic status in the rock world doesn't necessairly mean it will make it in the prog world...Led Zepplin is a Classic band, but not in the realm of prog
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My problem with Radiohead leading the charge is the mainstream media and public don't regard Radiohead as progressive rock. Also, Dream Theatre would have done it already. The fact that they haven't is an indication they never will.
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richardh
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Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:51 |
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