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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 03:41
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I've had to edit some posts in this thread to remove the quoting of a now invisible offensive one.Wink


oh! the forums been struck by "The Man"!  LOL

Why'd you have to go edit a post, now im killing myself trying to remember which post was deleted and considered offensive, i cant help it! errggg the mystery!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 03:50
Think Crimson hoods Micky...
 
By the way, in case it was not made clear, this is not a new genre, but a renaming of Experimental/Post Rock.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 03:54
ooooohhh. . . ha ha i remember, crips fo' life!
I knew about math rock before as a legitimate genre,  i was just curious as to its very quiet, seemingly unnoticed combination with post.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 05:03
Originally posted by Fight Club Fight Club wrote:

There seems to be so much "mathematical" prog that I don't see how a Math Rock subgenre can come about. Isn't the mathematics one of the defining characteristics of a lot of prog?
 
Mathematics is one of the defining characteristics of music in general.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:48
 ^ good point

and though certain artists (like Fripp or the Tech metal bands) are recognized as having mathematic tendencies, it was the U.S. brand of heavy, punk-tinctured minimalism that began emphasizing the strong pattern-based guitar rock that would eventually be labeled 'Math Rock'






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 19:00

Math rock is not probably the best term for the style, but we need to remember that it Is already considered a genre and already has a name that has been widly accepted, its not made up by the site like "eclectic prog".

The defining characteristic of Math-Rock is that it is a fusion of Prog, Avant, and Punk. And a lot of it sounds like punk in complex time signatures.
 
As for the post connection it is because they both developed around the same time by groups of connected bands. (math rock has a ton to do with Tortoise and early post but has little to do with GY!BE and the second wave of post)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 20:38
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Math rock is not probably the best term for the style, but we need to remember that it Is already considered a genre and already has a name that has been widly accepted, its not made up by the site like "eclectic prog".

The defining characteristic of Math-Rock is that it is a fusion of Prog, Avant, and Punk. And a lot of it sounds like punk in complex time signatures.
 
As for the post connection it is because they both developed around the same time by groups of connected bands. (math rock has a ton to do with Tortoise and early post but has little to do with GY!BE and the second wave of post)


that was what I was afraid of... I now know I will never get into math rock...LOL
from the little I have heard and understood it involves this st**id punkish beat Angry


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 20:41
 ^ that's fair, but it's a fascinating and unexpected blend of things, and progressive


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:05
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Math rock is not probably the best term for the style, but we need to remember that it Is already considered a genre and already has a name that has been widly accepted, its not made up by the site like "eclectic prog".

The defining characteristic of Math-Rock is that it is a fusion of Prog, Avant, and Punk. And a lot of it sounds like punk in complex time signatures.
 
As for the post connection it is because they both developed around the same time by groups of connected bands. (math rock has a ton to do with Tortoise and early post but has little to do with GY!BE and the second wave of post)


that was what I was afraid of... I now know I will never get into math rock...LOL
from the little I have heard and understood it involves this st**id punkish beat Angry

To be honest I've never heard a "punkish beat" in any of the math rock bands I know of and if does have it they add polyrhythms, play it backwards and make it sound as complicated as possible...

So that simple punkish beat won't sound so simple nor punkish after a math rock band plays it.  Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:20
Why not check out a short video just to be sure?
http://www.progarchives.com/media.asp?id=985

or for a less melodic math rock sound:
http://www.progarchives.com/media.asp?id=90



Hope those videos change your perception towards the genre.Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:27
^ just WOW - both videos are AMAZING - much jazz/fusion in there Thumbs%20UpClap

I begin to like math rock Big%20smileLOLLOLBig%20smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:33
Great! I'm glad you liked them. Hopefully this will spark some curiosity to check out the genre even further. Wink

EDIT:
Too late.LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:39

The progtologists friends band, Trephine, are heavy and mathy almost to the point of tech metal. Good band Jody.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:41
yeah I remember them, glad they made it here


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:42
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Great! I'm glad you liked them. Hopefully this will spark some curiosity to check out the genre even further. Wink

EDIT:
Too late.LOL



thanks for the recommendations Hug, off to bed now Sleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:44
Thanks Ian,glad you liked them.They are starting to get quite a bit of attention,and not just locally.I have known them for years and they are tireless.They just tour,tour and tour some more.A real hard working band and a great bunch of guys too.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:45
Tell them to come to Texas! We should also recomend them here on the archives.
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