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erik neuteboom 
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
 Posted: September 20 2007 at 05:56 |
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AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT …. ..... how to become a Prog Andaluz aficionado! My story starts in the Sixties during my salad days (I am born in 1960) when my parents used to play records with ethnic music from Latin-America (from mariachi to Andean folk), Greece, Russia and Roumania. So I got familair with the sound of music from other countries at a very early age and this has strongly influenced me. When I grew up I and got in touch with progressive rock in the mid-Seventies, my fascination for ethnic music remained and I started to discover the Indian raga (of course Ravi Shankar albums, a legend since Monterey Pop) and .. the Spanish flamenco, boosted by the fact that the Dutch flamenco association was situated in my hometown The Hague. They organised a lot of concerts under the title ‘Fiesta Gitana’ so soon I was carried away by the virtuosic guitarwork and the exciting dancing, handclapping (palmas), tapping with the heels (zapateado) and the emotional, often very compelling flamenco atmosphere (called ‘duende’ when there is a kind of ‘total communication’ between the audience and the flamenco artists). I started to buy records from Paco Pena (who had become a flamenco guitar teacher on the Rotterdam conservatory in The Netherlands) and Paco De Lucia who had a worldwide hit with his composition Entre Dos Aguas. One day I was at the home of Peter van der Laan, one of the legendary Dutch progheads. When I told him about my passion for flamenco, he took a dive into his impressive progrock collection and showed me the first three albums of Triana, a magical moment and from the very first moment I listened to the music of early Triana, I was a Prog Andaluz aficionado! He promised me to record the three Triana albums on tape, a few weeks later I received those Triana tapes and my Prog Andaluz quest has begun. The next band to discover was the Spanish/English formation Carmen with their wonderful three albums (my favorite is Fandangos In Space) but then it stopped for a long time ..until I stumbled upon Greg Walker his amazing progrock label Syn-Phonic in the late Eighties. In his catalogue I read about other Prog Andaluz bands like Mezquita, Cai and Azahar, I was sheer euphoric, ordered those albums and started to check out the other Prog Andaluz bands like Alameda, Gualdalquivir, Iman and Medina Azahara, the rest is history!
I am very glad that I get the opportunity to tell you about the Prog Andaluz here on Prog Archives, I am very pleased with the many positive reactions from you, I wish you good luck with your Prog Andaluz quest!
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Dirk
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
Posted: September 20 2007 at 06:59 |
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I've ordered the Mezquita album , see how it compares to the very good El Patio.
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: September 20 2007 at 10:10 |
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Well Dirk, I have the idea that after Triana their first album El Patio, Mezquita with Recuerdos De Mi Tierra is the second best acclaimed Prog Andaluz album
YouTube Prog Andaluz:
Medina Azahara: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Rirn5L1bp9Q
Medina Azahara: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=vgp5XJVVypY
Muchas alegrias
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: September 22 2007 at 18:30 |
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Yesterday I had a Messenger chat with Eduardo from Senogul, he is looking forward to the interview Avestin and I are preparing, of course we will talk about Prog Andaluz
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Andrea Cortese
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
Posted: October 03 2007 at 06:29 |
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Hi Erik,
I've ordered my first TRUE prog andaluz record (until now I only own Carmen's first and second albums): Triana's El Patio on CD.
It's difficult to find these items on cd in europe...
I'm also interested in Triana's Hijos de Agobio but I haven't find it on cd anywhere.
I'm also curious about Medina Azahara's En Al Hakim...
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 03 2007 at 08:15 |
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Good to see some fellow collaborators who are willing to post in this thread or interested in Prog Andaluz, Andrea, thanks
Try: [email protected] , that's my friend from Progwalhalla, he has many good contacts in Spain to even get the rarest albums on CD, good luck!
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Andrea Cortese
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 06:53 |
Arrived!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 06:55 |
Hi Erik. I've contacted Hans. He said he can purchase Triana's Hijos de Agobio.
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 06:59 |
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Great Andrea, I am sure you will love that album, especially the 3 tracks that feature new flamenco guitar hero Vicente Amigo
Perhaps it will be the start for a further exploration of the Prog Andaluz? Anyway, I am looking forward to your review!
Hans is a wizard, yesterday Nightfly send me a PM in which he said to be very grateful that he got Fireballet at Progwalhalla Edited by erik neuteboom - October 14 2007 at 07:01 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 06:59 |
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I'm still waiting for my copy of El Patio.
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 07:02 |
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The more you have to wait, the more you will appreciate that final moment you can listen to El Patio by Triana (one of my All Time Top 10 Progrock Albums)
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 07:03 |
Yep. Despite some obvious and typical 80s sound (on electric guitar and drums) the use of flamenco guitar (great) and morish vocals create a very original fllavour.
I'm curious to listen to Triana's El Patio and Hijos de Agobio.
Alameda or Mezquita the next choices.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 07:06 |
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On about Imàn Califato Indipendiente I think this would be a useful one:
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 07:07 |
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It's true Andrea, some songs on En El-Hakim sound a bit polished but, as you have noticed, that special Prog Andaluz flavor colours the album very tasteful and distinctive. The 2-CD compilation by Alameda is awesome and Mezquita is excellent, also one of the most distinctive Prog Andaluz albums, a very Morish atmosphere
About Iman, I have their first two albums on 1 CD, very dynamic and great work on keyboards and guitar, quite jazzrock flavored. So that Iman compilation album will be a perfect choice  Edited by erik neuteboom - October 14 2007 at 07:11 |
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memowakeman
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13032 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 11:52 |
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Hi Erik, what about Omni, i have just bought their album called "Solo fue un Sueño", have not listened to it yet but seems to be a good one, the band call themselves Rock Progresivo Andaluz.
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Nightfly
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 13:28 |
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Excellent stuff here Erik. I don't have any Spanish Prog in my collection but I will investigate further for sure. |
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:05 |
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Thanks for your support today, fellow aficionados, I was afraid that this thread was doomed to the vaults of the Forum Nightfly: thanks for the compliments, if you want to check out the Prog Andaluz, I recommend the first two Triana albums and Mezquita as the most distinctive Prog Andaluz bands but Alameda, Azahar and Iman are also worth to discover, see my reviews for more details.
Memowakeman, about Omni, I don't consider it as Prog Andaluz, just read my review:
OMNI – Solo Fue Un Sueno (***1/5) - Omni is a Spanish six piece band, rooted in the late Eighties. This is their third album, released in 2007 and again it contains pure instrumentally music. The sound of Omni on Solo Fue Un Sueno has obvious echoes from Seventies Camel and also reminds me frequently of Dutch Camel-inspired bands Lady Lake and especially Odyssice (it could have been their new album!): very melodic, flowing and often sensitive guitar work (compelling in Noche En Malandar, fiery in Telescopio de Papel en biting wah-wah in Espíritu Libre), omnipresent interplay between guitar and keyboards, some pitchbend driven Minimoog sounding soli (like in Telescopio de Papel and the dreamy final song Salto al Abismo) and finally the use of saxophone (sultry in El Tren De Rota). Like Seventies Camel the sound by Omni is like a ‘warm bath’ as on the Camel albums Mirage and Moonmadness, my favorite Camel-era. Along the strong guitarwork, the keyboard player colours the compositions very tasteful with varied vintage keyboards like the Fender Rhodes electric piano, the violin-Mellotron (wonderful intro on Noche En Malandar), Minimoog synthesizer, Solina string-ensemble and the Hammond organ (swirling solo in the alternating highlight Espíritu Libre). This is not very original symphonic prog but it sounds wonderful with very good work on guitar and keyboards and tasteful arranged compositions.
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avestin
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:10 |
I have their albums (in digital format) but I will buy this soon.
This is their combined releases and recordings, right?
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 14:36 |
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Avestin, Iman released two albums, in 1978 and 1980 and on this CD is written on the cover "todas sus grabaciones" which means "all their recordings" so I presume this CD includes all tracks from their 1978 and 1980 albums. Look at this: http://www.califatoindependiente.tk/ |
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memowakeman
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13032 |
Posted: October 14 2007 at 21:56 |
Neither do i, after listening to them, though they consider Prog Andaluz themselves, we don`t
, nice review as usual |
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