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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 10:53 | ||
Although The Dambusters and The Battle of Britain are slightly flawed, they are excellent films nonetheless, when you bear in mind when they were made. They literally got surplus Hurricane and Spitfire and used them in many different ways in BoB, some they made Taxiable, some even flyable. They even made mock-ups for blowing up on the ground. I don't think they could ever make BoB now and have the same charm (not that war is nice, but when these films were made, the RAF servicemen were deemed as heroes) and be able to capture the apparently nonchalent and cocksureness of the pilots. As for The Dambusters, again, this film was excellent for its time, yet still flawed. There were no Avro Lancasters used in the film, instead they used the slightly different Avro Lincoln. Peter Jackson is apparently going to make his own version... I think it will be physically amazing to see (CGI no doubt), but I don't think the film will actually be that good. We shall see. Will he be politically correct and change the name of Guy Gibson's Black Labrador? I hope not, for accuracies sake. |
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:07 | ||
Band of Brothers is EXCELLENT.I have the boxed set DVD's and never get tired of watching them.That it's a true story gives it even more of an impact.
Incidentally,my grandfather was in the same division as those guys,101st Airborne(Screaming Eagles).
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Leningrad
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7991 |
Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:14 | ||
I loved LFIJ. Very well done.
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:22 | ||
I didn't like Flags of Our fathers that much. The story is good for what it is, but the non-combat aspect of it didn't appeal to me much, and I thought the combat aspect was mostly routine and unexciting.
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:43 | ||
I'm a bit more of a WW l film fan-- Paths of Glory, All Quiet on the Western Front, and What Price Glory with James Cagney is excellent. For WW ll Longest Day is amazing, and Run Silent, Run Deep is fun.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:50 | ||
Voted for other.
IMO Soviet movies "Cranes Are Flying" (director M. Kalatozov), 1957 Cannes winner, and "Ballad of a Soldier" (by G. Chuckhrai, 1959) are the best.
By the way lots of great Soviet/Russian movies dedicated to the World War II are unknown outside the former USSR. Unfortunately.
My favourite from the list is "Das Boot". Edited by NotAProghead - September 03 2007 at 17:14 |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 03:52 | ||
I don't think the point of the film was to make it 'exciting'; I think the point there was the exploitation of the soldiers and the American public to raise money for war bonds; certainly makes me think every time I see that iconic photograph now. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 03:56 | ||
You know, that's something I think about occasionally - why is it I get 'pleasure' from watching and re-watching movies such as SPR, Schindlers List, BoB, The Pianist, The Black Book & so on... these are all in their own way brutal films... I hope I enjoy them for their inner sense of the survival of hope & overcoming adversity, not the vicarious thrill of the (admittedly well done and, yes, exciting) battle scenes |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 04:02 | ||
also how incredibly well made they are, Jim, I always feel the same when I see Goodfellas or some other terribly violent film... they're of such high quality, I have to watch
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Bastille Dude
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 06:15 | ||
I can't believe I didn't see this poll until now. Many great WWII movies here but THE LONGEST DAY is my favorite.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 06:31 | ||
I love band of brothers and saving private ryan,im always searching for new ww2 films but my searches are getting norrow though im still yet to see letters from Iwo Jima.There was a few ww2 films released this year werent there, which didnt get much press? Imdb it is! |
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Jared
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Posted: September 04 2007 at 07:13 | ||
two of the finest WWI movies are not on your list there.... Renoir's 'The Grand Illusion' and Losey's 'King & Country'....
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 05 2007 at 12:38 | ||
Off at a slight tangent here, but apart from the obvious 'All Quiet On The Western Front', and the risible 'The Trench', does anyone know of any major films regarding the First World War?
The only one I can think of personally is 'A Very Long Engagement' |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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andu
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Posted: September 05 2007 at 13:25 | ||
@ Jim:
Kubrick's "Paths of Glory", of course http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050825/ Lean's "Lawrence of Arabia" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056172/ Ciulei's "Pădurea spânzuraţilor" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058439/ Peter Weir's "Gallipoli" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/ I'll think of some more, these were the first to come into mind. |
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 05 2007 at 13:43 | ||
They show "Tora, Tora, Tora" about every six weeks or so on AMC and it still works well because there's no political agenda involved, just a fairly factual telling of events as they were known at that time. I've probably seen it a hundred times. Tons better than the goofy "Pearl Harbor" fiasco. |
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Novalis
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:13 | ||
If you are completely honest, it would be a bit of both.
I remember someone saying, while watching Gladiator, how disgusted they were that the Romans enjoyed the violence of the Coliseum. It then dawned on me that we were enjoying exactly the same thing.
Sure, actual human death is far worse than fake blood and CGI, but the principle of enjoying the violence is the same...Don't know why we enjoy it, evolutionarily or religiously speaking, but we do.
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dwill123
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:53 | ||
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 09:18 | ||
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:41 | ||
"Midway" is decent but, like "Pearl Harbor," the romantic subplot detracted from the overall pace of the movie. I remember that when Midway hit the theaters they touted some kind of state-of-the-art sound innovation but what it really was was LOUD as Hell! Oh, and "Run Silent, Run Deep" is a great classic submarine flick.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Jim Garten
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Posted: September 07 2007 at 07:22 | ||
Cheers Andu - how could I have forgotten Gallipoli? (Doh!) You would have thought the sheer insanity of trench warfare would have appealed to a modern film-maker, but they only seem interested in WWII. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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