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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:40

SCRIPT FOR A JESTER'S TEAR

THE BEST album since 1975. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 12:41
Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

SCRIPT FOR A JESTER'S TEAR

 

I concur!Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 13:02
where are pallas - the sentinel and pendragon - jewel??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 13:06
sticking with the best, no Anti-prog!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 13:35

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

its like a 40 car pile up here, prog went this way and
you guys went that away. Marillion, Dream Theatre,
IQ its ALL CRAP!!!

You are so wrong it's almost funny.

Talk about completely missing the point...

Living in the past, wishing to
duplicate a time period.

Ah - I see!

That's what you're doing.

 

Folks this is where
progressive rock went, the Germans synthesized it.
The early 70s will never be repeated, move on and
dont miss what remained of progressive rock in the
80's. After that the record companies pretty music
snuffed it out.

No - this is where it went; Bands like Marillion, IQ, Twelfth Night etc took the basics from the old school of prog, then revitalised the entire genre, stirring up new interest in the old bands and kept prog alive, new and fresh.

You also forget about the Enid - the magnificent band that straddles the two "eras".

Of course the early 70s will never be repeated - that is why the music grew and evolved into something different - still prog, but the new generation.

Record companies will never kill it.

If you havent heard these recordings you dont have
an opionion. I have heard the bands you guys are
whining about and they arent too exciting.

Heard is different to listened. They are very exciting - but you haven't cultivated the ears, to use a recording studio phrase.

I've heard most of the recordings you mention, and with the exception of 90125, they're very good - but make me wonder if you mean true prog in the original spirit, or the more avant-garde?

If Pendragon, Ayreon, Porcupine Tree, Dream
Theatre, Anglagard are so great why are they not
filling up stadiums like the bands before them did.

Times change. Audience demands change.

Nowadays Robbie Williams fills stadiums.


They arent on radio, because the old bands are
better, on and on and on.

That is not true - if it were, how come so many new bands like the rappers and boy bands get played?

And how come Marillion still hit the charts?

 Do yourself a favor try this
stuff, if Im wrong big deal, if Im right you found more
essential music.

Yes it's worth trying, and it's good - but it's only more essential if you prefer that style.


Happy Trailz

Quicksilver Messenger Service ain't prog either

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 14:29
thanks for your honesty Certified!

whats your opionion of some of these recordings.

Holger Czukay - On the Way to the Peak of Normal     
Gandalf - Magic Theater     
Bernard Xolotl - Last Wave     
Klaus Schonning - Lorian Arabesque     
Johannes Schmoelling - Wuivend Reit     
Airto Moreira - The Other Side of This     
Michael Shrieve - The Big Picture

PROG METALHEADS need not inquire.     

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 14:32
Cert you should stick to yer Sheep 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 15:04
well I can't believe you havent included some of the most important ones.

You left out tons.

But out of those, I picked pete.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:04

my fav's from the 80's :

- Peter Gabriel - security (not really prog but marvellous anyway)

- iQ - The Wake (I used to be amazed by this one)

- Twelfth Night - Fact and fiction or collector's item (underrated album)

- yes 90125 (the one you did mention)

- Rush - Grace under pressure (hard to choose from all their greatest albums they released in the 80's)

- Tears for fears - sowing the seeds (it's not really prog but a nice combination of pop, prog and psychedelic) 

- Marillion - Script (the Nursery Cryme of the eighties)

- Peter Hammill - Patience (Hammill was still in top form during this era)

- The Chursh - starfish (not prog at all but great anyway - i discovered this in the 90's)

- Pallas - sentinel (It used to be a great album then - maybe because of the lack of other prog)

- Simple Minds - street fighting years (their only album which contains some prog sounds)

- Propaganda - a secret wish (the most original - mixture of pop, wave, electro and prog)

and...that's about all folks

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:19
Originally posted by Fishy Fishy wrote:

my fav's from the 80's :

- Peter Gabriel - security (not really prog but marvellous anyway)

- iQ - The Wake (I used to be amazed by this one)

- Twelfth Night - Fact and fiction or collector's item (underrated album)

- yes 90125 (the one you did mention)

- Rush - Grace under pressure (hard to choose from all their greatest albums they released in the 80's)

- Tears for fears - sowing the seeds (it's not really prog but a nice combination of pop, prog and psychedelic) 

- Marillion - Script (the Nursery Cryme of the eighties)

- Peter Hammill - Patience (Hammill was still in top form during this era)

- The Chursh - starfish (not prog at all but great anyway - i discovered this in the 90's)

- Pallas - sentinel (It used to be a great album then - maybe because of the lack of other prog)

- Simple Minds - street fighting years (their only album which contains some prog sounds)

- Propaganda - a secret wish (the most original - mixture of pop, wave, electro and prog)

and...that's about all folks

Good to see that someone noticed Tears for Fears and Simple Minds had their moments. I thought they were both good pop/rock acts, strong on melody and the latter in particular were excellent live. If you ever saw them, or have heard 'Live in the city of light' you'll know what I mean.

As for Pallas?? They seem cotraversial around here. I bought 'The Sentinal' when it came out and loved it to bits for a about a year, then had to concede that Marillion and IQ were so much better. Still good to see an album with a cover like that, released in 1984

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:32

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Cert you should stick to yer Sheep 

You mean I should lay off the lubricants?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:39
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Cert you should stick to yer Sheep 

You mean I should lay off the lubricants?

Use glue instead.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:58

Marillion - Clutching At Straws a criminally underated album.

IQ - Tales From The Lush Attic their best until 'Dark Matter'.

Pallas - Arrive Alive (keep thinking those nice thoughts Jim Garten).

Pendragon - Fly High, Fall Far, ok so its a mini-album but 4 cracking songs.

Twelfth Night - Fact And Fiction, don't get me started on Geoff Manns lyrics, but to even things up Live At The Target runs it a close second.

Rush - Moving Pictures or Grace Under Pressure take your pick.

Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite squeezing in at the arse end of the 80's should be included for the track 'Only A Matter Of Time' listen to the keyboards build at the end and see if you can keep the hairs on the back of your neck from standing up.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 17:28
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Cert you should stick to yer Sheep 

You mean I should lay off the lubricants?

Use glue instead.

That's disgusting...

 

 ...it burns your nose out.

 

I think I'll stay with the whisky, as Velve recommends...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2005 at 02:42
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Nowadays Robbie Williams fills stadiums.


They arent on radio, because the old bands are
better, on and on and on.

That is not true - if it were, how come so many new bands like the rappers and boy bands get played?

And how come Marillion still hit the charts?

 

 

I think the problem is that there wasn't any cheap and so atrocious pop-music in 60s and 70s. All the terms like "quality", "good", "bad", "simple", etc. are comparative. So till the latest 70s show-business still didn't make the "industry" (in a bad sense) of Music so tight. And the masses of people couldn't compare really good music with bad, because no-one produced the really bad music (like cheap pop kinda britney spears or michael jackson or different raps-schmaps...).

We know that masses (not the Fans of music as we are) prefer the simplest and the most primitive music, touching for the common human reflexes (by rhythms, sounds or lyrics), the sexual one, for example... The real Art is much higher than all this crap!

I Prophesy Disaster...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2005 at 08:10

There was plenty of atrocious pop music in the 1970s - can anyone say "Bay City Rollers"?

There was also plenty of "bubblegum" pop back in the 1960s and 1950s.

Proportionally, of course there was much less than today, as back then record companies were still trying to find ways to dominate the music market (payola, buying stock from record sellers listed with Billboard, etc).

Now they've pretty much succeeded with their horrific "stables" of pretty people churning out rubbish written by "professional songwriters" and their Playlist CDs that they send to the radio stations they sponsor.

mp3s aren't killing music - the record companies are trying to.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2005 at 09:03

None of the mentioned ones.

My favorite 80's releases are:

  • Marillion - Script for a jester's tear
  • Marillion - Fugazi
  • Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
  • Marillion - Clutching at straws
  • IQ - Tales from the lush attic
  • IQ - The wake

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2005 at 09:09
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