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Points: 1261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2005 at 23:08
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

).  And Jesus did consider it a moral obligation to help the poor.  (For more on this subject, I invite you to visit the website of a group called "Call to Renewal".)

Hmmm, agree to help the poor or be a bad christian by the standards of jesus himself... makes me find it odd that most right wingers are christian.
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2005 at 00:30

I've read in the newspaper today that the G7 has promised full debt relief to the worlds poorest countries 

 

Their stil quarelling on how to finance this, and it only involves 37 of the poorest nations,
and it is only about the debts to the WMF, not the bilateral debts.

but it is a good start. Let's hope they keep their promise.

 
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Points: 2373 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2005 at 05:32
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

The bottom line is simply this: there are sufficient resources available to ensure that every human being on the planet can be fed, clothed, housed, and given a basic level of education and medical treatment. Until this becomes a reality, we have no justification for calling ourselves civilised.

How true.

And to look at this from another perspective:

How many people in the world are undernourished or just plain starving? Four billion or more?

Imagine what would happen if they didn't have to spend the entire day just trying to make sure they can survive it, if they had enough food and a decent place to rest their heads.

What percentage of these people would start making music? Even putting the humanitarian and/or religious aspect of the loss of human lives aside, just on how much good music and other good stuff are we missing out? Just how much richer an existence would these people and we enjoy?   
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2005 at 09:33

^^

Good point, and to take it a stage further: somebody who may discover the cure for cancer, or a clean, infinitely renewable source of energy, or a grand, unified theory of everything that will reconcile relativity with quantum physics, could die today for the lack of clean drinking water or a simple sachet of rehydrating powder. The potential of the human mind is limitless; to condemn the majority of humans to a wretched, poverty stricken existence on the grounds of some spurious form of economic determinism is to squander the most valuable resource available to us as a species. This has nothing to do with 'isms' and everything to do with choosing between our nobler and baser instincts. Relative poverty will always be with us, but it's within our power to eradicate absolute poverty, and it's also in our interest to do so - tackling poverty is the most potent means of waging war on terror.
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to the already rich among us...'

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