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Swinton MCR 
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 Posted: January 21 2005 at 06:41 |
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Banks - Composition, Gabriel - Theatrics. Hackett - Moodiest Guitarist ever take you pick - I had to go for Banks but only just !
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 06:45 |
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Who the hell would vote for COLLINS ! - Well it takes all sorts , and you can usually judge a postee by the usage of their MOTHER TONGUE ! (oooo-errrr)
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St Hubbins
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 07:30 |
Has to be Tony Banks, no Banks = no Genesis
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Here lies David St Hubbins
and why not....
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 07:55 |
I love Phil Collins voice.....hes also a damn good drummer. Voted for him.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 07:56 |
 Swinton MCR wrote:
Who the hell would vote for COLLINS ! - Well it takes all sorts , and you can usually judge a postee by the usage of their MOTHER TONGUE ! (oooo-errrr) |
Hey...i love phils voice and hes a great drummer. Gotta stick up for a fellow drummer 
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slipperman
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 08:16 |
WHO SAID RAY WILSON???
It's gotta be between Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks. Banks really is the most important member overall, but since Gabriel wasn't at all responsible for trash like 'Invisible Touch' and 'Calling All Stations', I gotta go with Gabriel.
But in a band of such amazing musicians, it's too bad Rutherford is so overlooked (just look at the poll, ouch!). Along with Phillips, he is responsible for their early reliance on double 12-string guitar harmonies, a huge part of their sounds for many years, and his bass playing and especially his crushing Rickenbacker tones are all over the early material so I think he's also worthy of some praise (forgetting the Mechanics, of course...)
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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Mategra
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 08:31 |
slipperman wrote:
Gabriel wasn't at all responsible for trash like 'Invisible Touch' and 'Calling All Stations', I gotta go with Gabriel.
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Invisible Touch and Calling all Stations are definitely not trash. Personally I like them much better than Gabriel's low points Us and OVO.
And I must admit that I think that Wilson's voice sounds better than ol' Collins.
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mirco
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 08:35 |
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When Gabriel flew away, the Genesis I like died. As simple as this.
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 09:02 |
Mategra wrote:
slipperman wrote:
Gabriel wasn't at all responsible for trash like 'Invisible Touch' and 'Calling All Stations', I gotta go with Gabriel.
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Invisible Touch and Calling all Stations are definitely not trash. Personally I like them much better than Gabriel's low points Us and OVO.
And I must admit that I think that Wilson's voice sounds better than ol' Collins.
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Are you being, er...ironic??
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Mategra
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 09:10 |
Blacksword wrote:
Are you being, er...ironic??
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No, I'm absolutely serious. That's my opinion and I'm not ashamed of it.
Edited by Mategra
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sigod
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 09:24 |
Blacksword wrote:
No John Mayhew either.. or John Silver..Chris Stewart...!! or that geezer from Stiltskin..
The injustice of it.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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sigod
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 09:26 |
BTW, poor old Mike.
He should have never become a mechanic... 
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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HaroldTheBarrel
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 10:19 |
Yes, well I did end up voting for Tony, but then, what would Genesis have been without him? It was really a draw between him, Steve and Peter though - a very tough decision! And poor Mike! While he, like Phil, made some bad decisions, his bass, 12-string, and bass-pedal playing were just incredible, and also, for those of us who love Trick of the Tail, he and Tony co-wrote Squonk and Ripples, which are superb songs, so it's not as if his writing skills were non existant... and look at Foxtrot, and look at the Giant Hogweed!
ANYHOW! Genesis was simply an amazing band, what can I say?
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Listen:
Your friends have been broken. They've told us of your poison.
Now we k now.
KILL THEM!
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Guillermo
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 11:34 |
Chester Thompson: great drummer. Daryl Stuermer:great guitarist.
More seriously... I think that everybody was important from the most important members (Banks, Collins, Gabriel, Hackett, Rutherford), but I think that without Tony Banks, the band couldn`t sound the same. He was, maybe the most harder to replace. His keyboards are very much in the centre of the sound and style of the band.
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slipperman
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 11:57 |
Mategra: I actually find some enjoyable songs on 'Invisible Touch' and 'Calling All Stations', but very few. I would consider those the worst two Genesis albums. And I do like 'Abacab' more than most people, so I'm not an anti-trio Genesis fan or anything...but it's cool to hear an opinion like yours that isn't more of the usual Gabriel-era sycophantic raving (like me!)
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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Cinema
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 12:28 |
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I picked Phil Collins ... certainly not because of the way he watered down
the band in the 80s and 90s, but rather because he's truly one of the
world's best drummers. His drumming adds so much to the music of
albums like Selling England, Lamb, Trick, and Wind.
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lucas
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 12:53 |
sigod wrote:
Hey, no Ant Phillips?? |
I was wondering the same.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 13:07 |
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Maybe I'm being naive here... but why does everybody hate Collins so
much? I think he's a good drummer and he has a good voice. Plus, he's
not entirely responsible for the direction the band went in as the 70s
drew to a close... there were two other band members, don't
forget.
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 14:45 |
I voted for Mike, cause he shouldn't be left out altogether!
Genesis were very much more than the sum of the parts though, each time you take one away, you lose a lot more.
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Guillermo
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 17:58 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
Maybe I'm being naive here... but why does everybody hate Collins so much? I think he's a good drummer and he has a good voice. Plus, he's not entirely responsible for the direction the band went in as the 70s drew to a close... there were two other band members, don't forget. |
I agree with you! 
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