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moonlitbay 
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 Posted: September 24 2006 at 06:53 |
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I only wish someone could perform "Grendel" one last time......
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A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!!
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Fishy
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 07:25 |
 moonlitbay wrote:
I only wish someone could perform "Grendel" one last time...... |
7 years ago I saw Arena playing the track live (as an encore), it was a great performance. This was the only live performance of the song I ever heard.
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hebrius
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 08:21 |
I always been a MARILLION fan, since the 2nd album, ' Fugazi'. When H entered the band in 'Seasons End' I liked, but then cames the 'Holidays in Eden' and I decided: my MARILLION collection is over! I only recorded a cassete tape (do you remember what was that?). The time passes and I listened more and more that tape and... I loved it!!! At the same time they came with the wonderful ' Brave' and well, I was reconquered by them!!! Now, after all the H albuns, I need to reveal: I don't listen to the Fish era albuns anymore. They sounded so... neo prog for me (after all these years I renegate this style). I've buyed the 'Recital' DVD and couldn't get to the end... anybody here want to buy that thing??? 
And, btw... I loved the H renditions to the Fish era songs. The voice of Hogie is very passionate, and is much different in the hard songs to the soft ones. We can't say the same thing of Fish... 
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 03:10 |
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 08:07 |
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<<That's right - he is>>
Well, you're the first person that I've ever heard say that. I'll take your word that you believe it, however.
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unforgivable74
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 08:33 |
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I'm more than happy with hearing just Hogarth stuff these days with the odd 'Fish'surprise at conventions. I think the band have got it just right because it's obvious that H will never be able to do justice to Fish songs, however great a vocalist he is but the odd bit of nostalgia is always welcome.
I think a more interesting slant on this topic would be: What H era songs would sound good with Fish singing them?
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Laughs as I clean my teeth, laughs as I rub at my eyes.
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 09:07 |
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I always thought "The Uninvited Guest" sounded like a Fish era tune. Same goes for "Berlin".
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iTunes: "Save The Day" from Train's Calling All Angels
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 12:23 |
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Just listen to the bonus disk from the Clutching at Straws remaster, it's pretty easy to then work out what music was written while Fish was still in the band.
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rupert
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 13:19 |
Don't get me wrong it has some killer moments on it, but a lot of the time it feels like 'm listening to a cover of a Radiohead song. Thankfully they've filtered their influences much much better in Marbles. The only track I really really enjoy from Anoraknophobia is When I Meet God. [/QUOTE]
What about "This is the 21st Century" ? Or "The fruit of the wild rose" ? Or "Between you and me" ???
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...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock !
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rupert
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 13:30 |
hebrius wrote:
I always been a MARILLION fan, since the 2nd album, 'Fugazi'. When H entered the band in 'Seasons End' I liked, but then cames the 'Holidays in Eden' and I decided: my MARILLION collection is over! I only recorded a cassete tape (do you remember what was that?). The time passes and I listened more and more that tape and... I loved it!!! At the same time they came with the wonderful 'Brave' and well, I was reconquered by them!!! Now, after all the H albuns, I need to reveal: I don't listen to the Fish era albuns anymore. They sounded so... neo prog for me (after all these years I renegate this style). I've buyed the 'Recital' DVD and couldn't get to the end... anybody here want to buy that thing???
And, btw... I loved the H renditions to the Fish era songs. The voice of Hogie is very passionate, and is much different in the hard songs to the soft ones. We can't say the same thing of Fish...
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In many respects that's exactly how I feel about it... I wasn't that a Marillion fan before, though... I never ever got into "Fugazi", for example. But I used to love "Script" from the beginning and I still love "Clutching at Straws" ( Tux on is MÌSSING on the regular album ! ).
When "Season's end" came out I think I wasn't really listening, I simlply had the false expectations, same to "Holidays", though I bought the "Noone can" single ( commercially spoiled man I am ).
It all started to change for me when "Sympathy" came out and I didn't wanna buy the single cause I didn't want Hogie singin' "Kayleigh", so I decided to buy the "Collection" to discover that, no matter how good ( great ) the old songs with Fish on it are, I preferred ALL of the later tracks with the exception of "I will walk on Water" ( still don't like that son, but it's really an exception of very few that were to come, I don't like "Born to run", and I think the ending of "Holidays" with "This Town"etc. sounds lifeless though the tunes themselves are good ! ). With that great Cver-version of "Sympathy" in mind I had the feeling that "Next there's going to e something really BIG" and I wasn't disappointed, cause "Brave" was exactly that, the Masterstroke if you want. With "Afraid of Sunlight" I got afraid they ru out of gas ( I like the fact it is extremely popular amongst fans, though, I still think it's their low-point to date cause they were so burnt out and I can hear it ) but with all the albums comin' on since then 'm very, very happy ( I think that "Made again" is not their best live-effort, though, on the other hand you get the whole "Brave" album LIVE and lots of Marillion for the money... ). I'm very excited about the yourney they're on and what is to come next, I became an addict since long and I'm glad to have seen them live on their "Brave"-Tour, never forget it though it's more than 10 years ago now !
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...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock !
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 17:35 |
E-Dub wrote:
<<That's right - he is>>
Well, you're the first person that I've ever heard say that. I'll take your word that you believe it, however.
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I was merely stating the facts - not beliefs or opinion 
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 17:54 |
<<I was merely stating the facts - not beliefs or opinion>>
And was this statement before or after the bong hit? 
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Gravity Eyelids
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 18:59 |
^^ ^^
And where is that fact stated????????
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Into this wild Abyss the fiend
Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while,
Pondering his Voyage.
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 02:49 |
E-Dub wrote:
<<I was merely stating the facts - not beliefs or opinion>>
And was this statement before or after the bong hit?
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Can you state exactly how H is technically better than Fish to back up such a facetious comment?
I didn't think so 
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 02:49 |
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 06:11 |
rupert wrote:
Don't get me wrong it has some killer moments on it, but a lot of the time it feels like 'm listening to a cover of a Radiohead song. Thankfully they've filtered their influences much much better in Marbles. The only track I really really enjoy from Anoraknophobia is When I Meet God.
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What about "This is the 21st Century" ? Or "The fruit of the wild rose" ? Or "Between you and me" ??? [/QUOTE] They don't really grab me like the majority of Marillion's catalogue. Map of the World is a catchy song I suppose, but I prefered it when The Las did it
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 08:52 |
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When you say "technically better", that means to me that Fish has more range and a richer tonal quality. Sorry, but I don't hear it in Fish's voice. Hogarth handles Fish material quite easily; however, could you imagine Fish tackling, say, "King Of Sunset Town", "Holloway Girl", "The Space", "Gazpacho", just to name a few? Fish's voice is very one dimensional. The guy makes up for it with a passion, however. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and I like his music; but, I don't think it's technically better than Hogarth's. Hell, it's not even technically better than a lot of singers out there. Then again, neither is Hogarth's.
Now, it's your turn. And take into consideration the time difference before ever thinking that I won't back up a statement of mine.
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Edited by E-Dub - September 26 2006 at 08:53
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Cristi
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 11:15 |
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No problem with me. Hogarth is one of my favourite vocalists. I can't say the same thing about Fish.
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Peter
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:34 |
Cristi wrote:
No problem with me. Hogarth is one of my favourite vocalists. I can't say the same thing about Fish. |
Oye loikes feesh!
Edited by Peter Rideout - September 26 2006 at 15:35
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:56 |
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That and some malt vinegar and I'll eat enough to block a colon, PR!
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