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Peter
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 10:13 |
That's right, Geddy, and...
I stopped dancing during the disco era -- sorry, but it was music for people who didn't like music (i.e, diots).
Arguably, it was Abba & company who killed prog -- thank Chr*st punk & new wave came along to kill disco, in turn!
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kebjourman
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 10:19 |
i dont like cheesey sounds in general
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The Wizard
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 11:12 |
kebjourman wrote:
i dont like cheesey sounds in general |
Same here, and disco=cheesy. Now that I think of it, disco may be the cheesiest music of all time.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 11:25 |
Prog-man wrote:
HEY...
WHAT ABOUT E.L.O. - DISCOVERY?
THERE ARE SOME DISCO REFERENCES IN IT... |
SOME REFERENCES?????? LOL Discovery is a play of words that means VERY DISCO.
It was a 100% Disco album and XANADU (ELO with Olivia Newton John) was even worst but at the end I still believe ELO was never a Prog band (I'm taking my risk on Micky's anger ).
Iván
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Catholic Flame
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 12:30 |
70sSoundquality wrote:
I like 70's 'disco', not the boring obvious pop kind, but the musically competant kind- i.e., Heatwave... borderline Steely Dan in a way, heavy use of jazz chords, competant walking bass lines, lots of analog keys, (i.e. Rhodes, Analog Synth, clav, etc etc). I quite like it.
What do you think about 70's 'disco'?
I have music that most would consider to be "prog" called "Sun City" by Nova, from 1978. Extremely competant playing, awesome songs, and hints of "disco" splashed all over the place. Kind of also why I like "dont kill the whale" so much. Thoughts? |
You're obviously too young to have lived through that God awful
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“Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.”
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bhikkhu
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 13:51 |
Catholic Flame wrote:
70sSoundquality wrote:
I like 70's 'disco', not the boring obvious pop kind, but the musically competant kind- i.e., Heatwave... borderline Steely Dan in a way, heavy use of jazz chords, competant walking bass lines, lots of analog keys, (i.e. Rhodes, Analog Synth, clav, etc etc). I quite like it.
What do you think about 70's 'disco'?
I have music that most would consider to be "prog" called "Sun City" by Nova, from 1978. Extremely competant playing, awesome songs, and hints of "disco" splashed all over the place. Kind of also why I like "dont kill the whale" so much. Thoughts? |
<p ="Msonormal">You're obviously too young to have lived through that God awful
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I would have to agree. To me it was the antithesis of quality music, and helped push me toward prog (so there's a plus). There may have been some experimentation with disco rhythms in prog, but it's not exclusively in the realm of disco. These are actually just danceable beats. If "70s prog bands included some of these elements, then it would have naturally been labeled disco. At another time, it would have been called something else.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 13:52 |
Catholic Flame wrote:
70sSoundquality wrote:
I like 70's 'disco', not the boring obvious pop kind, but the musically competant kind- i.e., Heatwave... borderline Steely Dan in a way, heavy use of jazz chords, competant walking bass lines, lots of analog keys, (i.e. Rhodes, Analog Synth, clav, etc etc). I quite like it.
What do you think about 70's 'disco'?
I have music that most would consider to be "prog" called "Sun City" by Nova, from 1978. Extremely competant playing, awesome songs, and hints of "disco" splashed all over the place. Kind of also why I like "dont kill the whale" so much. Thoughts? |
<p ="Msonormal">You're obviously too young to have lived through that God awful
music!!
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I would have to agree. To me it was the antithesis of quality music, and helped push me toward prog (so there's a plus). There may have been some experimentation with disco rhythms in prog, but it's not exclusively in the realm of disco. These are actually just danceable beats. If "70s prog bands included some of these elements, then it would have naturally been labeled disco. At another time, it would have been called something else.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 14:10 |
Catholic Flame wrote:
70sSoundquality wrote:
I like 70's 'disco', not the boring obvious pop kind, but the musically competant kind- i.e., Heatwave... borderline Steely Dan in a way, heavy use of jazz chords, competant walking bass lines, lots of analog keys, (i.e. Rhodes, Analog Synth, clav, etc etc). I quite like it.
What do you think about 70's 'disco'?
I have music that most would consider to be "prog" called "Sun City" by Nova, from 1978. Extremely competant playing, awesome songs, and hints of "disco" splashed all over the place. Kind of also why I like "dont kill the whale" so much. Thoughts? |
You're obviously too young to have lived through that God awful music!!
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I have to agree, I started to listen Prog seriously at the age of 13 or 14 (1977 or 1978) exactly when Satuday night Fever was released, it was a nightmare, the only music you saw on TV or listened in radios, was from the Bee Geees, Donna Summer, Tina Charles, etc.
The weekend nights were even worst, live shows from discotheques where everybody was trying to dance like Travolta (We didn't had cable then).
Nobody who hasn't lived then can imagine what a terriblly boring, repetitive and mediocre era it was and to make it worst, the Prog releases were progressively worst each year.
Iván
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YYZed
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 18:09 |
Myxamatosis wrote:
Apparently Pink Floyd did a little disco-influenced song called Another Brick In The Wall (part 2)... Anybody ever heard it?
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More funk than disco if you ask me...
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Schizoid Man
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Posted: June 10 2006 at 23:02 |
What do you think of 'disco' in prog?
The same as if I see s**t in my soup.
OK...seriously, the only group I've heard pull off a prog/disco was Crimso with "Sleepless" which I like.
And I do like some disco songs. Ami Stewert's version of "Knock on Wood" is good. Grandmaster Flash's "White Lines". And some others.
But disco, at least the way I see it, is a very limited genre. Not much room for experimentation nor growth.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 00:06 |
Zitro wrote:
Led Zeppelin flirted with disco in Carouselambra (or however it's spelled). That song has a prog rock structure and is over 10 minutes long.
The Tangent's "A place in the Quene" album has a disco song that is very catchy. |
"GPS Culture" and "Follow Your Leaders"? Oh, thank God. I thought it was just me noticing that. Reminds me of a one-hit wonder named Rupert Holmes who did lounge-act disco back in the 70s ("The Pina Colada Song").
A Place in the Queue is a pretty dang good album except for that.
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Losendos
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 08:40 |
78/79 was a depressing time with punk and disco taking over the airwaves and the public's attention whilst the leading prog bands came out with poor follow ups ( Tormato , Love Beach , ATTW3 , The Wall, Heavy Horses ) so if some prog bands mixed in disco such as ELO ( I also don't think they were ever particularly prog) it indicates to me their was a lack of inspiration.
But I have been told on another thread there were many good prog releases in these two years by lesser known bands. So this is a great sadness then that the airwaves were captured by the talentless or bands like the bee gees who dumbed themselves down ( they call themselves the enigma with a stigma I.e great songwriters whose involvement in disco permanently overshadowed their work ) while good releases were destined to remain anonymous.
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Joolz
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:35 |
ha ha no Dancing Queens on this site then
Peter Rideout wrote:
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micky
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 13:31 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Prog-man wrote:
HEY...
WHAT ABOUT E.L.O. - DISCOVERY?
THERE ARE SOME DISCO REFERENCES IN IT... |
SOME REFERENCES?????? LOL Discovery is a play of words that means VERY DISCO.
It was a 100% Disco album and XANADU (ELO with Olivia Newton
John) was even worst but at the end I still believe ELO was never
a Prog band (I'm taking my risk on Micky's anger ).
Iván |
hahahha... no anger mate just bewilderment at your view of them hahah
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micky
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 13:35 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Nobody who hasn't lived then can imagine what a terriblly
boring, repetitive and mediocre era it was and to make it worst, the
Prog releases were progressively worst each year.
Iván |
hahah well... I must disagree as one who was there as well and was a
big fan of it... yes I had Johnny Travolta posters in my room.... if
you view Disco through the prism of a prog fan I could understand that
view... but taken for what it was... music to get you up and shaking
your behind... it was (and still is) highly highly effective music.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 13:52 |
well, I must admit. I proudly wore my Disco Sucks T-shirt.
I could never get my head around Disco.
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kebjourman
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:15 |
The Wizard wrote:
kebjourman wrote:
i dont like cheesey sounds in general |
Same here, and disco=cheesy. Now that I think of it, disco may be the cheesiest music of all time. |
80's pop and smooth soul/quiet storm are much worse IMO
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70sSoundquality
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 16:22 |
It seems like a lot of people are ignorantly dismissing the actual musicianship that goes into playing some 70s disco music/prog with disco elements, or dismiss the musicianship that goes into an album like Tormato or Love Beach. I didn't think a lot of people would be so hostile towards it.
Edited by 70sSoundquality - June 11 2006 at 16:23
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Aaron
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:32 |
i just got Magma's 1981 Bobino concert, which certainly has hints of disco in some of their songs
sucks
Aaron
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:36 |
As always, there's crap (Village People) and gems (Deodato) even in Disco.
As yet, I have found no gems in House or Swedish Dance Band Music, but
they're the only 100% unredeemable genres I know of, and I kind of hope
to be proven wrong about that some day.
Edited by Teaflax - June 11 2006 at 17:49
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