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memowakeman 
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 Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:30 |
Gentle Giant is one of the finest bands here, im sure that they are great musicans , bu t i have severa lproblems with them, i have always attempt to dig them and to like them, and i like but only for a moment, i cant listen to them so much, because i cant really"understand" them, i dont know how to explain myself better, but this is my point of view.
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:42 |
Odd24: Kind of a strange comparison. I personally like 'Bitches Brew' much more than GG, and I haven't studied at a music school, either.
Memo: But you're not actually forcing yourself to like them, are you? That would be counterproductive.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 09:43 |
 Odd24 wrote:
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Does anyone else agree with me?
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Does anyone say something bad about the sacred Gentle Giant? How dare U!! 
But anyway, any Gentle Giant cd (except the last 3) contains
more interesting stuff than the complete Bitches Brew sessions  by Miles Davis. I will nag this 4CD box till my dying  day. Probably I don't understand that kind of "complex music" because I am not a graduate at the conservatory....
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Hey! Hey! Hey! Whoa!  Let's not go that far! This is turning into a forum attacking some of my favorite music (again   ) Bitches Brew is Sacred and Holy to me  . How about we just attack Spock's Beard? 
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zappaholic
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:18 |
By sheer coincidence I picked up the first Gentle Giant album last night. (used for $5). Listened to it and it just didn't hit me like some other stuff has. I do like complex stuff like Zappa and Opeth and Yes and Tull etc. Maybe I just haven't listened to it enough yet, but it seems to have an air of "tried to but couldn't". I'll give it a few more tries though.
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Odd24
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:21 |
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Sorry, I do not know Spock's Beard. I cannot say anything about them. But what I can say is this: Dream Theater is good, Gentle Giant is better  .
Or in other words: I like Dream Theater and I love Gentle Giant.
Edited by Odd24 - April 22 2006 at 10:23
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Right down the line
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:39 |
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Gentle giant has something that is not easy too describe. But I can trully understand people that have difficulties with them...But comparing with spocks beard.... Too different categories and styles and epokes
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:47 |
oscar wrote:
Gentle giant has something that is not easy too describe. But I can trully understand people that have difficulties with them...But comparing with spocks beard.... Too different categories and styles and epokes
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I'd say all music (except the very simplest maybe) has something that is hard, or impossible to describe. Like I said before, I listened to the band attentively and I'm pretty certain I managed to catch hold of that something that GG has. Only that I simply didn't find it interesting.
Spocks Beard has some GG influence and they sometimes get criticised here for watering it down. So there is some common ground for comparison, IMO.
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 10:59 |
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Ok.. I must admit....listened too litle too spocks beard
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:04 |
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They use some of the instrumental harmonies as a shell for popish MAIN stuff... First opinion, and I have listened too litle...
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Drew
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:06 |
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:13 |
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Spocks beard are mostly boring.... but they have elements of greateness...and of GG harmonies..I find the music from spocks NOT CONSTINENT GG are mostly greateness. Spocks beard are PUDDLE POP with some GG elements
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:13 |
There's a band called Yezda Urfa in the archives. They seem to be coming from roughly the same headspace as GG and are much better, IMO. Shame there's only one song available, here:
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Peter
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:14 |
I do not agree, but GG are certainly NOT to all tastes.
In the end, it all comes down to individual tastes, not the "ability to write a decent song" or a "catchy" song. 
GG's fans are many, and for us, they write very good songs indeed! 
Anyway, now that you've got that off your chest, you probably feel better. 
(There are artists I don't like as well, but I don't really feel any need to list them, or ask for validation or approbation of my feelings.  )
Whatever.
Edited by Peter Rideout - April 22 2006 at 11:15
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:20 |
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"There are artists I don't like as well, but I don't really feel any need to list them, or ask for affirmation of my feelings"
Then we stop the discussion again...
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:25 |
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There is a lot of prog artists that I like.... but I dont feel any need too list them, or discuss them at all
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Masque
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:34 |
I like Gentle Giant .. I do ... but I have one small problem with them ... the sweet spot , wheres their sweet spot ? I mean all great prog has a sweet spot somewhere ? I`m talking about melody in case you don`t get where I`m coming from . It just seems to me that when I take a bite into a Gentle Giant song instead of finding a caramel centre I end up getting mixed herbs instead
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 12:16 |
Oh awesome thanks for this topic. Nobody really cares about your personal opion that much.
Maybe I'll make my own thread about how much I hate Marrilion!
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Peter
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:03 |
oscar wrote:
"There are artists I don't like as well, but I don't really feel any need to list them, or ask for affirmation of my feelings"
Then we stop the discussion again...
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Did I urge that? No, I did not. "Discuss" away!
 Note my use of the word "I." It indicates that I am speaking of and for myself -- I did not say " you shouldn't list them," or " you should not need affirmation of your feelings."
F*ck! Quote someone else for a change, please folks! I'm not some censoring "boogy man." Like many others here, I just find such topics to be hugely subjective, needlessly confrontational, and largely pointless.
But please: discuss Gentle Giant vs Spock's Beard (WTF?) to your heart's content, oscar! And write lists all you like too -- some seem to think they make for interesting reading....
To hell with this BS -- I'm going for a ride.
Edited by Peter Rideout - April 22 2006 at 13:09
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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mithrandir
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:06 |
Gentle Giant write fine tunes IMO, never had a problem getting into them, in fact I gravitate more towards their style then most traditional prog,
Edited by mithrandir - April 22 2006 at 13:07
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soundspectrum
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:09 |
Terra Australis wrote:
I don't see gentle Giant as being complex. Sure they use counterpoint in interesting ways, lots of different instruments and different time signatures, but it all fits into a cohesive whole which flows well and has dynamics and melody (perhaps not the sort used in pop music). The singers have passion, power and a delicate touch. It's not as if they use dissonances which grate and have 'noises' etc. to distract from the music.
I like Spocks Beard as well.
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hahahahahaha you dont see gentle giant as being complex???? then I suppose stravinsky is childs play too.
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