Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Music Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Gong, the musical experience
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedGong, the musical experience

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Message
Winter Wine View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2005
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 1140
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 09:10
Well I really do love the first of the trilogy, the third part needs a few more listens! I'd love to get 'Angels Egg' 

Edited by Winter Wine
My computer's broke
Back to Top
oliverstoned View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 26 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 6308
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 10:43
You can go for the virgin CD 2004 remastered version.

It's better than the former one.


(and here's the beautiful vynil's inside:)





Edited by oliverstoned
Back to Top
Erpland316 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 30 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 359
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 12:51
Gong is an amazing band.  I think you have to realize that, especially during the Daevid Allen era, they used a lot of humor in their songwriting.  I think humor bothers some progressive rock listeners for some reason.  Steve Hillage is one of the the most accomplished guitar players with a truly unique style.
Back to Top
Winter Wine View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2005
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 1140
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 13:19

Originally posted by Erpland316 Erpland316 wrote:

Gong is an amazing band.  I think you have to realize that, especially during the Daevid Allen era, they used a lot of humor in their songwriting.  I think humor bothers some progressive rock listeners for some reason.  Steve Hillage is one of the the most accomplished guitar players with a truly unique style.

I love the humour in the lyrics!

Oh and I also think that Hillage is an excellent guitarist! Adds to the atmosphere perfectly



Edited by Winter Wine
My computer's broke
Back to Top
oliverstoned View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 26 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 6308
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 13:20
Cosmic style is Hillage's one.

He inspired french guitarist Christian Boulé from Clearlight (musical community parallel to Gong)

Back to Top
Hemispheres View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 22 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 533
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 13:28

Originally posted by Pylo Pylo wrote:


I have "Camembert electrique", "Flying teapot", "Angel's egg", "You" and "Live etc" they're all good albums, but my favourites are "Camembert electrique" and "Flying teapot".

 feel the same way great band

[IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg">
Back to Top
Drew View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 20 2005
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 12600
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 13:31
I thought Gong was a TV show
Back to Top
Winter Wine View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 12 2005
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 1140
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 13:52

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I thought Gong was a TV show

Well it is an instrument!

My computer's broke
Back to Top
Zac M View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:03
If you like Gong, you should also check out Daevid Allen and Steve Hillage's solo careers (the Hillage albums are easier to get).

Edited by meurglysIII
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty
Back to Top
Hendrix828 View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: November 19 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 63
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:05

Gong,

 

They were good until Hillage took over the band,in late 74. Everything before then is really good. One of my favorite bands!!

Back to Top
Zac M View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:06
^I disagree, they changed their musical direction under Moerlen...it's different, but still very rewarding IMO!

Oh yes, and Howlett took over if I remember correctly for a very short time, not Hillage. Hillage left to do his first solo album and appeared as a guest on Shamal.


Edited by meurglysIII
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty
Back to Top
Hendrix828 View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: November 19 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 63
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:07

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

^I disagree, they changed their musical direction under Moerlen...it's different, but still very rewarding IMO!

 

No,

 

They sucked after Allen left.

Back to Top
Zac M View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:09
Originally posted by Hendrix828 Hendrix828 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

^I disagree, they changed their musical direction under Moerlen...it's different, but still very rewarding IMO!

 

No,

 

They sucked after Allen left.



Just curious, what albums have you heard from this period?
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty
Back to Top
Hendrix828 View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: November 19 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 63
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:15
Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Hendrix828 Hendrix828 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

^I disagree, they changed their musical direction under Moerlen...it's different, but still very rewarding IMO!

 

No,

 

They sucked after Allen left.



Just curious, what albums have you heard from this period?

 

Well considering I have all of their albums,and I have every bootleg they recorded from 69-75,and a few boots from 99-2002,and I have alot of the GAS Tapes,I think I know my Gong

 

And just as with Soft Machine,I think they sucked after Wyatt left,I think Gong sucked after Allen left. Their reunion gigs were good from 77 and such. It's just they were a totally different band without Allen.

Back to Top
salmacis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member

Content Addition

Joined: April 10 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3928
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:22
I generally think that Hendrix828's opinion holds for me too, albeit not as strongly. However, albums such as 'Expresso II' and 'Downwind' for Gong are nowhere near as enjoyable or creative to these ears as the Allen squired version was; rather, the Moerlen albums present an in my opinion, rather stagnant take on jazz rock. They aren't bad, but not terribly innovative to these ears.
Back to Top
Zac M View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 18:34
I disagree with him about Soft Machine too!!! Their later releases are still rewarding to me, even more so than the PM Gong material. Softs is a masterpiece..to me at least-the best album of under Jenkins. I also find Land of Cockayne very rewarding (see my review), but I think that it and Rubber Riff should have been released as Jenkins/Marshall collaborations and/or Jenkins solo albums.
"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty
Back to Top
Flemdido View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 19
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 19:48
Gong is GREAT!!! My collection includes almost everything done by Allen,
and a few of the Moerlen influenced albums with the Gong name. They
are quite clearly two distinct styles. Allen's humor and spaced-weirdness
influences dominated when he was the leader. I'll second the earlier
nomination for Angels' Egg - some of the best humor and spaciness of
the trilogy there. Excellent musicians in the band, esp Hillage on axe and
Didier Malherbe (aka Bloomdido) on sax and flute.

The PM-led jazzy post-Allen Gong is also quite good but distinctly
different, no spacey stuff or weird humor, just good fusion jams with very
good percussion, if you like that type of stuff. Shamal was a transition
album between the two, and while much of that album is just okay, there
are a couple of standout tracks there (Cat in Clark's Shoes always makes
me laugh, and Mandrake has an excellent flute track and an oriental
flavor).
GonG is one and one is YOU
Back to Top
Olias View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: July 23 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 96
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 21:20

If you like GONG, you will be surprised by CLEARLIGHT "Symphony" (1973) wich features Didier Malherbe, Steve Hillage & Tim Blake...and a monster called Cyril Verdeaux.

Clearlight, 'Symphony'

 

 

Back to Top
Froth View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 19 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 461
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2005 at 23:02

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Well i really do love the first of the trilogy, the third part needs a few more listens! I'd love to get angels egg.

You is quite a leap from Flying Teapot. Really it helps to know Angels Egg, which most people regard as the bands finest hour. Believe it or not their is a part 4 and 5 to the trilogy (dunno how that works?)  but i havent heard those

Clearlight Symphony, by the way, is amazing. if you have ears you owe it to your self to listen to it.



Edited by Froth
Back to Top
BaldFriede View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 10266
Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2005 at 04:55
Originally posted by Olias Olias wrote:

If you like GONG, you will be surprised by CLEARLIGHT "Symphony" (1973) wich features Didier Malherbe, Steve Hillage & Tim Blake...and a monster called Cyril Verdeaux.

Clearlight, 'Symphony'

 

 


It also features Steve Hillage's "little brother" Christian Boulé (on side 2 of the original vinyl; Hillage is the guitar player on side 1), whose style is almost identical to the style of Steve Hillage. No wonder Hillage recruited him for his touring band (as can be heard on "Live Herald" and "BBC Radio Sessions"). Chirstian Boulé sadly died in 2001. He recorded 2 solo albums in the late 70s, "Photo Music" and "Non-Fiction", which are both worth a listening, especially "Photo Music". Their style can be described as "Gongish": Space-influenced jazz-rock or jazz-influenced space-rock, however you want to put it.


BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.109 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.