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progreviews 
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 Posted: November 24 2005 at 17:43 |
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Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice.
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Mikerinos
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 18:30 |
 progreviews wrote:
Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice. |
Not everybody has money growing out of their asses. Believe me,
if I could afford it, I'd buy albums rather than d/l them but money is
hard to come by when you're 16... even with a job. I have to
spend it on more important things like saving for a car and college.
Edited by Bluesaga
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 19:54 |
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Oooh, let me see now:
The least we can do is wave to each other (re-master) - VdGG
He to He Who Am The Only One (re-master) - VdGG
Pawn Hearts (re-master) - VdGG
Godbluff (re-master) - VdGG
Still Life (re-master) - VdGG
World Record (re-master) - VdGG
The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome (re-master) - VdGG
Vital (re-master) - VdGG
Present - VdGG
Fool's Mate (re-master) - Peter Hammill
Larks' Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson
Lizard - King Crimson
Red - King Crimson
The Inner Mounting Flame - Mahavishnu Orchestra
Heavy Weather - Weather Report
Days Of Future Passed - Moody Blues
Song To Comus - Comus
Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV - Volume 1: From Fear Through The Eyes Of Madness - Coheed and Cambria
Ghost Reveries - Opeth
Hinterland - Wobbler
Hatwise Choice - Hatfield and The North (now signed by Richard Sinclair and Phil Miller)
In The Land of the Grey and Pink - Caravan
Best Of (not the actual title) - Soft Machine
Ah yes, one more:
Aqualung - Jethro Tull (although that may have been late last year...)
I'm sure there's more I've missed out..., I bought some Tempest and Keef Hartley Band too.
Edited by Geck0
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 19:54 |
I've bought VERY many this year!! Here are most (or all?) of them of them:
- Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
- Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka
- Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo
- Frank Zappa - Over-Nite Sensation
- Frank Zappa - Apostrophe (')
- Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All
- Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures
- Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti
- Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage I,II & III
- Pink Floyd - Meddle
- Pink Floyd - Obscured By Clouds
- King Crimson - Discipline
- Shadow Gallery - Shadow Gallery
- Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone
- Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
- Meshuggah - Contradictions Collapse
- Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
- Meshuggah - Chaosphere
- Meshuggah - Rare Trax
- Meshuggah - Nothing
- Meshuggah - I
- Meshuggah - Catch 33
- Gentle Giant - Free Hand
- Gentle Giant - Interview
- Gentle Giant - Under Construction
- Yes - The Yes Album
- Yes - Fragile
- Yes - Yessongs
- Yes - Going For The One
- Yes - Keys To Ascention 1
- Van Der Graaf Generator - Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other
- Van Der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am The Only One
- Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
- Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
- Van Der Graaf Generator - World Record
- Rush - 2112
- Rush - A Farewell To Kings
- Kansas - Leftoverture
- Dream Theater - Images & Words
- Dream Theater - Live At The Marquee
- Dream Theater - Awake
- Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
- Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity
- Dream Theater - Once In A Livetime
- Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory
- Dream Theater - Train of Thought
- Dream Theater - Live at Budokan
- Dream Theater - Octavarium
- Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
- Brand X - Moroccan Roll
- Brand X - Livestock
- Brand X - Masques
- Brand X - Do They Hurt?
- Symphony X - Symphony X
- Symphony X - Damnation Game
- Symphony X - Divine Wings of Tragedy
- Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
- Symphony X - Live on The Edge of Forever
- Symphony X - The Odyssey
- Steve Hackett - Voyage of The Acolyte
- Steve Hackett - Please dont Touch
- Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
- Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
- Jethro Tull - Minstrel In The Gallery
- Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood
- Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge
- Mike Oldfield - Incantations
- Mike Oldfield - Platinum
 
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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robertplantowns
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 20:12 |
progreviews wrote:
Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice. |
Explain to me how it is "ripping off prog artists" when the people downloading their albums wouldn't be buying them if they had to pay for them. Ripping off prog artists would be making counterfeit copies and selling them for 10 bucks each on ebay, or at concerts, telling the people buying them that they're real. People who download albums who would not otherwise buy them are not creating any losses for the artist whatsoever.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 20:20 |
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I tend to only download a few album tracks and if it's a CD I can
easily get hold of, either via the Internet, or in my local shop, then
I will buy the album.
I still can't believe Opeth - Ghost Reveries was only £8.99..., still
expensive, but a brand new album for under £10? Coheed and
Cambria's latest was £14.99.
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robertplantowns
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 21:15 |
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Only 8.99? That's 16 bucks for a CD! 14.99 pounds is like 25 bucks, that is UNHEARD OF!!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 21:18 |
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It should be about £6.49 maximum for a single disc CD (even if it's a brand new release) in my opinion.
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progreviews
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 22:26 |
robertplantowns wrote:
progreviews wrote:
Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice. |
Explain to me how it is "ripping off prog artists" when the people downloading their albums wouldn't be buying them if they had to pay for them. Ripping off prog artists would be making counterfeit copies and selling them for 10 bucks each on ebay, or at concerts, telling the people buying them that they're real. People who download albums who would not otherwise buy them are not creating any losses for the artist whatsoever. |
I'll agree with this reasoning. I'm not anti-downloading and I understand not having money to spare for CDs, it just rubs me the wrong way when I see people boasting about having downloaded 100 prog albums this year. If you tell me that person really wouldn't have bought any of those albums otherwise, fine. I just hope that when folks *do* have the means to buy CDs, they do, instead of being used to having a free ride.
And let's be clear: I hate the record industry as much as anyone, it's the small labels like (in prog) Cuneiform, Musea, Laser's Edge etc - really any specialty label - that need the support.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction on my part, I know too many folks that DO all the hard work to release great prog music and know that they sell so few copies of this fantastic stuff that every single lost sale due to a download hurts. That said I am in agreement with most of the philosophical arguments in favor of downloading.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 00:32 |
progreviews wrote:
robertplantowns wrote:
progreviews wrote:
Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice. |
Explain to me how it is "ripping off prog artists" when the people downloading their albums wouldn't be buying them if they had to pay for them. Ripping off prog artists would be making counterfeit copies and selling them for 10 bucks each on ebay, or at concerts, telling the people buying them that they're real. People who download albums who would not otherwise buy them are not creating any losses for the artist whatsoever.
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I'll agree with this reasoning. I'm not anti-downloading and I understand not having money to spare for CDs, it just rubs me the wrong way when I see people boasting about having downloaded 100 prog albums this year. If you tell me that person really wouldn't have bought any of those albums otherwise, fine. I just hope that when folks *do* have the means to buy CDs, they do, instead of being used to having a free ride.
And let's be clear: I hate the record industry as much as anyone, it's the small labels like (in prog) Cuneiform, Musea, Laser's Edge etc - really any specialty label - that need the support.
Sorry, knee-jerk reaction on my part, I know too many folks that DO all the hard work to release great prog music and know that they sell so few copies of this fantastic stuff that every single lost sale due to a download hurts. That said I am in agreement with most of the philosophical arguments in favor of downloading. |
I'd support sites like Lazer's Edge only if they have a good selection and a reasonable price. And telling from the 2 (only 2) Pendragon cds they have, they aren't making a loyal costomer of me easily.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 01:00 |
Bluesaga wrote:
progreviews wrote:
Great to see people who are just so happy and proud of ripping off prog artists. Real f**kin nice. |
Not everybody has money growing out of their asses. Believe me, if I could afford it, I'd buy albums rather than d/l them but money is hard to come by when you're 16... even with a job. I have to spend it on more important things like saving for a car and college.
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Well, I want a Mercedes Benz but I can't afford it, that doesn't mean I'm allowed to assault a car dealer, if I can't afford something I don't buy it.
If you download is OK for you, but please don't use this forum to boast about illegal acts. Prog Archives doesn't allow or encourage illegal downloading.
Iván
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geezer
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 01:54 |
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Well said, Ivan.
I have noticed that Prog Archives is a playground of people (not all)
who mainly just download albums... something that I despise.
The best thing that could happen to prog is that all the downloading networks would be shut down.
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Yurkspb
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 02:18 |
Here's my list:
- Dream Theater – Octavarium
- VDGG – Present
- Yes – Close to the edge
- Yes – Fragile
- Yes – Tormato
- Yes – Relayer
- Focus – Focus 8
- Focus – Hamburger concerto
- Focus – Mother Foceu
- Quella Vecchia Locanda – s/t
- Quella Vecchia Locanda – Tempo della Gioia
- Le Orme – Felona e Sorona
- Matrin Barre – Stage Left
- Jan Anderson and orchestra play Symphonian Tull
- Magma – MDK
- The Flowerkings – Unfold The Future
- Roine Stolt – The Flower King
- Kaipa – Mindrevolutions
- Karmakanic – Wheel of life
- Karmakanic – Entering the spectra
- Sammla Mammas Manna – Maltid
- Von Samla – 1983
- Jordan Rudess –
- Camel – s/t
- Camel – Snowgoose
- Camel – Raindances
- Camel – Harbour of tears
- Camel – Rajaz
- Camel – A nod and a wink
- Steve Howe – Spectrum
- Rick Wakeman – Out there
- Caravan – If I could…
- Caravan – For girls who grow ...
- The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
- Moody Blues – Days of Future Passed
- Yezda Urfa – Sacred Baboon
- The Mars Volta – Frances The Mute
- Tomas Bodin – I AM
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progreviews
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 02:22 |
stonebeard wrote:
I'd support sites like Lazer's Edge only if they have a good selection and a reasonable price. And telling from the 2 (only 2) Pendragon cds they have, they aren't making a loyal costomer of me easily. |
Tell me you can find import CDs (legal ones, not cheap Russian or Japanese boots) on a regular basis for less than the $13-$18 that places like Laser's Edge and Wayside have them for, and I'm with you. Those guys have the best prices in town for that kind of stuff. Especially with the current exchange rates.
Now, if you're looking for a Yes CD they're probably not the cheapest.
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FragileDT
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 02:34 |
stonebeard wrote:
Over 50.  |
Yeah same here. Reading the first couple of posts made me seem like a bad
person, wasting all my money on CDs.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 03:17 |
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I'm reasonably new to prog, hence my longer list, I'm sure the list will get smaller every year, unless some new bands emerge.
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jefmoret
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:34 |
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Wow...being unemployed has hampered things for me the past year (I was
jobless from July to mid November)..so the '05 list of additions is
rather unempressive...
Neal Morse-Testimony
(Yep. That's it)
and for my birthday, I was given..
Neal Morse-One
Enchant-Blink of an Eye
Pendragon-Masquerade Overture
...wow, I did not realize how abysmal it had been...fortunately I have
started working again, and will be obtaining little shiny circles again
soon.
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cucacola54
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:02 |
hmm dont know, too many to remember... something between 80 and 120... 
thank you internet cd stores!!
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Progcupine
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:19 |
FragileDT wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Over 50. |
Yeah same here. Reading the first couple of posts made me seem like a bad
person, wasting all my money on CDs. |
Yeah!, thank you from here too!!, I bought around 55 until now!!, and I was feeling bad too!!, but is good to know that there is people like me out there!!
By the way, I haven´t downloaded a single cd in my life and I don´t like it, although I understand that some people can´t afford buying such amount of music so they download some cd´s, but anyway you should buy at least one!
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GPFR
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:32 |
King of Loss wrote:
Almost impossible for me to count... |
Ditto
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