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Another reason it remains a popular album 50 yrs after the fact, it is one of the best produced, engineered and recorded albums. It has been reissued in several audiophile formats (LP and CD) including MFSL 4yrs after release.
My OG LP copy still sounds NM condition and sounds spectacular, the beginning with the kids playing is scary real.......I've heard this record on a system that is uber expensive and its mind-blowing.

I spin it regularly.....
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Another reason it remains a popular album 50 yrs after the fact, it is one of the best produced, engineered and recorded albums. It has been reissued in several audiophile formats (LP and CD) including MFSL 4yrs after release.
My OG LP copy still sounds NM condition and sounds spectacular, the beginning with the kids playing is scary real.......I've heard this record on a system that is uber expensive and its mind-blowing.

I spin it regularly.....

yesss, it's mind-blowing and I take it around with DSOTM (along with a couple other jazz albums) to check new audiophile material
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Another reason it remains a popular album 50 yrs after the fact, it is one of the best produced, engineered and recorded albums. It has been reissued in several audiophile formats (LP and CD) including MFSL 4yrs after release.
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Hi,

Good work, will always be good work.

But part of the problem, TODAY, is that the listing of things monthly, or yearly, while far out and helpful, in the end, really hurts ... no one can tell anymore what is good or better and will survive 50 years ... and to me that is a sad event. The idea/fact that many bands sound the same is another problem ... and at that point your favorite, or preference takes the podium, and ignores the rest.

I would love to see a bit more emphasis on the music itself, than the numbers and preferences, but the folks that are getting the most attention are the ones with numbers and choices on their posts. 

In those days, you DID NOT HAVE that kind of thing blowing you out, and it took someone special to showcase an album that no one else played ... (years back on Guy Guden's blog he posted the many fights over 30 years with radio station maniacs and dirt holes.) ...but at the very least his show survived 50+ years, though he has not been on for a month (hopefully well ... he's a year on me at 75).

The sad side of it, was hearing some folks at the station make fun of the album, and then when the next album made a "hit", those same folks changed their tune but they would not play COTC.


Edited by moshkito - October 25 2024 at 08:38
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It's certainly the perfect 'art rock' album but not at all 'progressive rock' it was a million miles away from ELP, Yes and Genesis and no one would have positioned them with those bands.

Crime of the Century has some Progressive elements, but to me it's also definitely mostly an Art Rock album. So indicates the coverart too, and so has it mostly been considered over the years.


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Another reason it remains a popular album 50 yrs after the fact, it is one of the best produced, engineered and recorded albums. It has been reissued in several audiophile formats (LP and CD) including MFSL 4yrs after release.
My OG LP copy still sounds NM condition and sounds spectacular, the beginning with the kids playing is scary real.......I've heard this record on a system that is uber expensive and its mind-blowing.

I spin it regularly.....


All of this. One of my all-time favorite albums. Every song is a keeper.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

First album bought with my own money age 11 (newspaper delivery) 

saw the astounding sleeve in the record shop next to our school, and the next day, I had money to tale it home

I played it transparent. Still one of my faves, and I spin it in the car during the holiday trip for my GF.


Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It's certainly the perfect 'art rock' album but not at all 'progressive rock' it was a million miles away from ELP, Yes and Genesis and no one would have positioned them with those bands. This was the era of bombast and Supertramp were not that BUT it was changing. Dark Side Of The Moon a year earlier had shown that the bombastic approach was not necessary to win over fans and perhaps a band that concentrated on the 'song' was more welcome.

To each his own, but back then, in Central Canada (and North Am in general) COTC was certainly lumped in with all of those albums you mention.

Us kids/teens didn't feel the need to see what was pegged as "art rock" ("prog rock" was not really in our language back in those years) or not.


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I don't get that hung up on labels, good music is good music whatever but I still hear a clear distinction between the rock scene in general and a more art school approach that was not about turning the volume up and occasionally (at least) rocking out. 10cc, Roxy Music, Steely Dan (although early days they were 'classic rock' before becoming something else) and Supertramp were a different breed. For starters they were often predicated on writing music and not so much about the personalities involved. There were loads of crossover, as musicians (in those days at least) were interested what the other guys were doing and learnt from it. Genesis were perhaps almost halfway between an 'art rock' band and a 'progressive rock band' when Gabriel was in the line up. He had that art school mentality but after he went on to his solo career, Genesis were much more a traditional 'progressive rock' band as I see it.
BTW back in 1974-5 the phrase 'progressive rock' was in usage and the punks of 76-77 coined the phrase 'prog rock' as a put down , but it stuck!


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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BTW back in 1974-5 the phrase 'progressive rock' was in usage and the punks of 76-77 coined the phrase 'prog rock' as a put down , but it stuck!

Hi,

I kinda thought that the "put down" was more about what was considered "art rock" than anything else, since at the time, and for hundreds of years, street music (which so much of punk was) was not considered serious music, thus the put down was a way to suggest that "we belong too!"

Nowadays, this line is blurred so badly as to prevent a proper look and definition of the majority of works ... but I honestly feel that we should make a harder separation of what was originally "progressive rock (or art rock)" and "prog rock". However, I think this will bring up so many disagreements that I think everyone will give it up!


Edited by moshkito - October 26 2024 at 01:30
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