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Shudder To Think were pretty artsy and progressive for an indie band.
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Mansun

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MANSUN were an English Indie band from Chester whose brief three album career in the late 1990s could be regarded as the stalled beginnings of a resurgence in Progressive Rock in the mainstream (that has more recently been termed New Prog as a general catch-all for bands that have definite Indie/Alt Rock foundations but acknowledge Progressive Music as a source of influence and inspiration). Following on closely from RADIOHEAD in terms of success and recognition their debut album "Attack Of The Grey Lantern" entered the British album charts at number one on its release and with its conceptual story-line and self-revealing hidden track ('An Open Letter To The Lyrical Trainspotter') it quickly established itself as a favourite with fans as an album to discuss and debate at length.
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Originally posted by Criswell Criswell wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Anything can happen.  How about "prog country & western?"  Dixie Dregs is all I've got!

I could almost put the Marshall Tucker band in that category...particularly their early albums...

Man, that Toy Caldwell was one amazing guitarist!!  Clap
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The music of Iamthemorning could be another good example of "progressive indie-rock" Smile
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^that's more progressive chamber pop


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^that's more progressive chamber pop
Certainly not 'Rock' in the classic sense of it, but their tunes aren't all that pop either, in my opinion.
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^ some of their albums are more chamber pop, some chamber folk

I'm not really sure where the term alternative rock yields to indie but many bands like Mansun are more referred to as progressive alternative rock or progressive Britpop of all things :D


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ some of their albums are more chamber pop, some chamber folk

I'm not really sure where the term alternative rock yields to indie but many bands like Mansun are more referred to as progressive alternative rock or progressive Britpop of all things :D
Regretfully, the good ol' term 'pop-rock' has nearly gone extinct. Add 'progressive' and 'indie', and that might be a label for Iamthemorning.
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

The massively popular genre that is Indie must have some prog in its right?

Do you know of any progressive indie bands? (Or maybe even discuss whether it should be added as a subgenre?)


Well, The Dear Hunter is certainly one, and probably the most popular of this kind of subgenre. Same goes for Mew and Vylet Pony (though they are less indie rock and more indie pop) and maybe even King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard & Thee Oh Sees.

Additionally that new Glass Beach record that came out last month could be considered indie prog.

Edited by Dapper~Blueberries - February 07 2024 at 09:44
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By the way "Indie" is an even worse genre label than "Prog" and that means something. I have heard such a lot of utterly boring and cliched Indie rock, to the extent that I sometimes tend to think whatever has anything interesting in it really should be ruled out from being called "Indie" by definition. Although what I know of what has been mentioned in this thread is certainly good stuff.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

By the way "Indie" is an even worse genre label than "Prog" and that means something. I have heard such a lot of utterly boring and cliched Indie rock, to the extent that I sometimes tend to think whatever has anything interesting in it really should be ruled out from being called "Indie" by definition. Although what I know of what has been mentioned in this thread is certainly good stuff.


For sure. I don't know why these terms stick when they lose their original meanings. There is a distinct "indie" sound though for many of the bands labeled as such. Sort of out of tune and just slightly off if that makes any sense.

Agree with Dapper about Glass Beach. New indie prog rock that should be here.



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The Pineapple Thief and Gazpacho (and even some of the middle period Porcupine Tree) seem to have alternative influences but I'm not sure about Indie. 

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New Jersey's Moon Rabbit Retreat nicely blends indie elements with a progressive rock style. They really couldn't be labelled as crossover prog or post-pock. These New Jerseyans are exactly that: a progressive indie-rock band. Their 23-minute-long EP should be listened to in its entirety.
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Midlake ?
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The Dear Hunter sounds more like prog pop meets emo/pop punk to me. Though I guess there's somewhat of an indie vibe. When I think of "indie" nowadays, my brain immediately goes to more of the shoegaze-type stuff.
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

Midlake ?

Maybe also Wilco and Sufjan Stevens.
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I've been thinking about this too. Most are probably related but still don't feel terribly proggy as the genre sits. I agree with some mentioning The Decemberists. One of my favorite alternative-folk indie artists is Radical Face. The concepts and unusual structures makes many of the songs feel progressive. Especially The Family Tree trilogy. The most recent production also is experimental and creative. Prog Folk maybe?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

Midlake ?

Maybe also Wilco and Sufjan Stevens.

Neither are progressive rock. Art rock yes but no prog. We rejected Sufjan not too long ago.


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^Sufjan is currently undergoing evaluation in Prog Folk with two Yes votes. 🙂

Speaking of "progressive indie", we still need to hear your thoughts on AUA, Mike.

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Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

^Sufjan is currently undergoing evaluation in Prog Folk with two Yes votes. 🙂

Speaking of "progressive indie", we still need to hear your thoughts on AUA, Mike.

Well personally i find nothing progressive about him. Art rock / art folk isn't progressive.
I've not seen one other source that indicates he's progressive and i've heard most of his albums personally and don't find him even remotely progressive. I'll get to AUA when i get to it. Everything has been hectic and focusing on team duties has not been a priority.


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