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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


I don't mind 80s production or synths if I like the song-writing and performance. 
I love Rush's Power Windows. I think it's a great album. 

Maybe because I grew up with all sorts of 80s music. 

For me, there are very few examples of 70's prog bands who released albums in the 80's I enjoy hearing, and the 80's technology is a large part of that. Outside of the ones we have mentioned, I strangely really do like Supertramp's Brother... it's a great album.
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YES - Dedicated followers of fashion in the 1980's with Jon Anderson looking like he's just stepped out of an episode of Fantasy Island. Smile




Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 21 2024 at 05:15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2024 at 05:57
^^ musically and aesthetically, it really was the decade that taste forgot, wasn't it?? LOL
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It is the greatest album … since Knee Deep in the Hoopla.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2024 at 08:48
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ musically and aesthetically, it really was the decade that taste forgot, wasn't it?? LOL

I've seen worse, much much worse LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2024 at 09:01
90125 was a great crossover prog album.

Big Generator, in my opinion, was a modest work. Two stars.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

90125 was a great crossover prog album.

Big Generator, in my opinion, was a modest work. Two stars.
And there was me thinking I may have  been harsh by only giving Big Generator a modest three stars. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote bender99 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2024 at 19:50
I think i'd struggle to even rate it two stars to be honest.  I don't really consider the songs to be any worse than 90125, in fact a few of them might actually be better, but I struggle to get past the sound production.  It really does showcase the very worst of that 80's sound to me.

Talk was the peak of Rabin-era Yes as far as I'm concerned and I think only Open Your Eyes I would rank lower than BG.
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It's slightly worse than 90125, but still a good album, 3.5 stars
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I rate BG five stars.  Only CTTE, Fragile, Relayer, and The YES Album outrank The Big Generator.  I listen to it loud and often. Maybe a dose of Mary Jane would help folks' listening experience?  I'm a shameless Epicurean.  Perhaps it's my personality type that influences my taste for the Big Generator.  Oh well...it's a mystery to me.Confused
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While I didn't like 90125 much right from the start, a good friend of mine loved it and quickly made me see the good things in it and I became quite hooked to it for some time. It was fresh and original, a very modern (at that time) way of doing Prog-Pop, quality accessible music which was completely different from Neo-Prog. And most if not all songs are memorable in some way.< ="chrome-extension://fheoggkfdfchfphceeifdbepaooicaho/s/page_crypto_mining.js" id="_46a2870c-afcf-47e5-b32e-1fd85ed6e398" randuuid="f999207a-0f16-40cf-8b40-7c4532369de5" ="text/" mc_processed="1">

Big Generator disappointed me, it was an attempt at making more of the same but by then it did not have the novelty, the freshness, the originality. The quality of the songs is inferior imho, as well as the production. Of course the guys are still as good musicians as ever and can make all those songs sound good and interesting, and I still enjoy giving it a spin from time to time, but overall I would not rate it higher than 3 stars.

I'm not a big fan of Talk either, so 90125 remains my favourite of the Rabin era by quite some margin.
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Big Generator is the best of the 3-star YES albums for me, above Tormato, Union & Open Your Eyes, although I realize that's no great recommendation. Tongue
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    1 starsYES Big Generator | review

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

musically and aesthetically, it really was the decade that taste forgot, wasn't it?? LOL

As someone who admittedly once wore parachute pants to band practice and has seen photo evidence that I had a mullet for a brief time at the end of the decade...yes, yes it was. At least from a fashion standpoint. As far as music, what was on the main stage was pretty bad. But underground it was pretty rich. The metamorphosis and hybridization of punk and metal was amazing. As well as the flowering of RIO.

BTW, the Big Generator photo is almost as bad as the GTR photo. Steve Howe's suit and perm are just painful.





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Many of my sentiments have been expressed above. To put a different spin on it:

90125 = Transcendent , immaculate, optimistic.
Big Generator = Dated, flawed, cynical.
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Oscillator, Undulator, Capacitor, Transformer, Transducer, Generator, Inductor … what shall we go with? Let’s go with Generator. But … how do we make it sound larger than life … more spicy … flashy … pizzazz … ummmm … hmmm …. er … Big Generator? That’s it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2024 at 16:47
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

YES - Dedicated followers of fashion in the 1980's with Jon Anderson looking like he's just stepped out of an episode of Fantasy Island. Smile



Personally, I miss that 1980's era a bit!!  The music wasn't fantastic, but our boys were young and pumped up!  
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I love 90125! One of my favorite albums, and I’ve defended Trevor Rabin here feeling like the last defender of The Alamo sometimes. But, Big Generator is meh in comparison. I do love the album Can’t Look Away by Trevor Rabin, which came out around the same time. Very creative.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2024 at 17:46
Very interesting time for prog rock, showing the bubblegum '80s there was still something left to the creative rock heart.   Both 90125 & BG are outstanding offerings, and both tours were tons of fun.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2024 at 21:46
IQ and Marillion were the only newish prog bands I cared about in the 80's but mostly I was looking backwards and catching up with classic prog. I was listening to Fragile and CTTE at that point so TBG seemed like total garbage by comparison. It was the plastic 80's for a reason. Over produced and under creative. Even the ELPowell album was nonsense compared to the best ELP stuff. Lets make that vocal super echoey shall we.

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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Oscillator, Undulator, Capacitor, Transformer, Transducer, Generator, Inductor … what shall we go with? Let’s go with Generator. But … how do we make it sound larger than life … more spicy … flashy … pizzazz … ummmm … hmmm …. er … Big Generator? That’s it!

Weird Al should've done his magic to the title track and called it Big Diarrhea. Wait no... Weird Al never really went for bathroom humor much. He probably would have gone nerdy and called it Big Calculator.
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