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Snikle
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I never really got the whole "wrong generation" sentiment. Sure, there are lots of bands that I never got a chance to see live, but as someone mentioned there are videos of that. But that's made up for by the accessibility of music we have today. I can listen to almost any song from any time period with a 30-second search, a luxury the '70s lacked. In that sense, I'm from the perfect generation to find interesting old music without needing to spend too much.
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dougmcauliffe
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Eh, not really. I'm 22, I saw King Crimson on their last tour, and some other older prog groups but I'm so happy, content and excited with many of the current bands that are coming out and actively touring that I'm very happy to be young in the present with all the accessibility to this old music with all the new to look forward to. I've seen Leprous, King Gizzard twice, The Ocean Collective, Primus, Kikagaku Moyo, Geese, Thank You Scientist, Between the Buried and Me, Rivers of Nihil, Flaming Lips to name a few and as great as a Gentle Giant/Black Sabbath ticket sounds, I wouldn't trade any of it.
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Frets N Worries
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I was driving through the mountains, and decided to put on Close to the Edge (This was Today, after my last post) I finally understand what the song is all about. Seeing the valley and mountains and all the life... THATS what the song is all about. It made me think of this thread, I can put in headphones (I wasn't driving, since driving with headphones on is illegal, at least where I live) it made me realize that you couldn't do this in the 70s or 80s, sure, you had cassettes, but nowadays listening with headphones in a car is nicer, and higher audio quality, you can hear all the little details. It's Beautiful. I wasn't born in the wrong generation, I'm happy I get to discover all this old music and all the music it inspired. I just wish I had gotten to see Yes or Genesis in their Hayday
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David_D
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I'm not sure you've got my point there, JD. Or to be sure it's clear, I was opposing digging the artists themselves more than the music they create. |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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altered_beast
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Born in 76. The year of 2112, Trick of the Tail, Romantic Warrior, etc. I started to get into music at a very young age. I can remember hearing certain songs and liking them at about 2 years old. By kindergarten and first grade I was really getting into music. Bands like Toto, Journey, Asia, etc come to mind. Heard Plenty of Yes and Genesis in the 80’s and had a more ‘meh opinion of them. I really liked what Tears for Fears were doing as they were better at Progressive Pop than what the 70’s UK Prog giants were doing in the 80’s. Tears for Fears got me into listening to better music as I found myself wanting something better and was fed up with all the silly corporate Pop and Hair Metal. I also liked Iron Maiden with the operatic vocals and more challenging and complex guitar work.
In my teen years I got more into Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, and some other Prog related stuff. Prog Metal was really hitting its peak going into the early nineties. My cousin introduced me to Operation Mindcrime and I was hooked and blown away. Then I discovered Dream Theater and my life changed. I really started to love and appreciate King Crimson and 70’s Genesis. I really started to appreciate Rush at this age also. Became obsessed with Prog in my 20’s to where it became my favorite music. I loved the 70’s more than anything Prog but still enjoyed Prog Metal. I probably had sediments similar to yours for quite some time. The 70’s were really special. I was obsessed with 70’s Genesis and was irritated by what happened to them in the 80’s and 90’s. After Porcupine Tree took a long break a lot of really great bands started to emerge. Big Big Train was one of them. I started to buy a lot of modern Prog and was not disappointed. I have more modern Prog in my collection now than 70’s Prog. Never thought it could ever be possible. I feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff I ignored previously. |
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I suppose there are talented performers who don't produce their own, or maybe even very good, music. Is that what you meant? Lots of musical gymnastics without any real substance.
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We're living in a culture with much worshipping of famous persons not least because they're famous, and that can be difficult to avoid. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I suppose I used to sort of feel that way. I used to think of Drama as the last stab at prog for Yes and imagine them sitting around a table and saying something like "ok this is it. After this we all go do the pop thing." Maybe Rush had a similar conversation during the recording of Moving Pictures. But the thing is in the late 70s and very early 80s neo prog was just around the corner. Did it save prog? Maybe but save it from what? It didn't really die it just disappeared from the mainstream.
I also used to think I was born in the wrong decade. It seemed like I got into prog at the wrong time (I'm 53 and so I discovered it and got into it in the mid 80s). But now I wish I was young or younger because getting old is no fun. Lol. I think I once saw a t- shirt that said something like "I may be old but I got to see all the cool bands." I doubt younger folks think that way though and probably think Green Day is way better than Led Zeppelin. It's all about perspective.
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Frets N Worries
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^For me, 'Awaken' was a swan song, their last hoorah of long form prog epics (for a good long while at least) before switching to shorter songs.
Since I'm on the young side, it's cool to discover all these new bands for myself and find forums like PA where I can learn about such music. Taking it all in is a lot, rewarding, but a lot. I'd love to see some of these new bands in concert, but I don't have time/money to drive to see them, they never come anywhere near where I live which is a shame. I know some of the more modern stuff, since many of my friends listen to it, lots of Indie. You can hear various influences, a great number of Hip Hop artists are massive prog fans. Take Ye's 'Power' he samples '21st Century Schizoid Man' I'm sure that is the first time they've heard that, and it's crazy to think they have no idea that it's from a much different song. Since discovering Prog last year, my life has changed, and making and listening to music has helped me a lot, for the better. So again, not born in the wrong generation, perhaps I just wish there were more HQ concert films from that time ^BTW, most kids these days are focused on pop/rap artists, some poppy and dark R&B type stuff. And LOTS of country-pop. I can't think of a single person I know that loves Green Day, maybe a friend of a friend, and that was only once
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Worry not, Grasshopper!!
I was born in 1955, and saw Yes on their Close to the Edge tour (July 1972), Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick (October 1972), King Crimson on LTIA tour (April 1973) and so forth. They were amazing experiences! Fortunately, in the 21st century, we have ways to go back in time! a) YouTube - I saw this Genesis broadcast on the day it happened, and I was hooked!! b) Tribute Bands - if you haven't seen a good prog tribute band, seek one out! I love Canada's "The Musical Box" and have seen their Foxtrot, SEBTP and Lamb shows! Amazing stuff!! c) musicians themselves! By all means, seek out whomever is touring, such as Steve Hackett! And, don't discount some of the new, upcoming artists who compose & perform in the manner we enjoy! I am always finding new acts to learn about! Enjoy the trip, Charles!
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Frets N Worries
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^I've looked for artists, perhaps I should dig deeper
Hackett toured kinda near me, i REALLY wanted to see it, sadly i was busy that day, and it was something i couldn't really cancel. YouTube is an amazing resource. I agree (P.S. Love 'The Grasshopper' Reference)
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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How many of you younger folks buy physical copies of the music you listen to (whether it be cds or vinyl)? Just curious. I would think with younger prog fans there would be more than with younger non prog music fans but I don't know for sure.
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Frets N Worries
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^I mostly listen to Digital (It's FREE) but I love collecting records, I've got a few CDs, but I'll just make CDs if I like an album, which isn't illegal technically since it's personal use and I'm not selling them.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Digital is free? Does bandcamp know this? Lol.
I listen to music on youtube but it's not part of my "serious" listening. I'm a cd guy. I may return to vinyl one day. Nothing against spotify. I have that too but it's on my mother's account and don't listen to it much. Anyway, some of these responses are amusing to me. In some ways you could say anyone under 60 is young in prog circles or if they are too young to have been into it during the first wave (70s) which would be the case for me.
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Frets N Worries
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Well... free on YouTube and Spotify at least. For me, 'Young' in prog circles means under 30. which means I'm a little baby
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Nah, young is under 60. Or if you want to say they first got into prog in the 2000s or later then ok but in my mind it's anyone who was too young to be into it in the 70s. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part but I'm entitled to my reality however delusional it might appear. |
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Frets N Worries
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^Young is opinionated it seems
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Frets N Worries
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Or perhaps subjective is a better term
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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