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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I tried to listen to the things that you people have posted, but I just can't stand a 3 second loop with the word nigga repeated arrythmically on top of it for minutes on end. That must be the least progressive "music" in the world. 
I posted because of relevance and not because they're personal favorites (a couple of the ones I included I even dislike), but is there really all that much of that thing going on in the songs here?

You tell me:

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Free my niggas inside, all them niggas that died
Rest in peace to my niggas, I hope they live in the sky
Pour out some liquor, load your fifth up for your niggas and ride
For your niggas that got hit bad and didn't survive
Sometimes I feel like, I'm the realest nigga alive
Since we was kicking doors, four niggas divvying pie
They ain't believe me when I told niggas the city was mines
Now look at me though, Buffalo nigga

That's a real nigga, that's a fact

Maybe God ain't want me killing them niggas and doing time

When I script and then it's strictly for my niggas (woo)

'Member that f**k nigga pulled up using his chrome
Hit the back of my head and neck, I should've died, nigga
I feel like my nigga Dunce kept me alive, nigga
Slapping my face like, "Bruh, open your eyes, nigga"
Shaking my head like, "f**k that, you can't die, nigga"
Only real sh*t what I provide, nigga
I wrote this sh*t with the tears in my eyes, nigga
Now they gotta consider me top five, nigga
You hearing my sh*t, is you surprised, nigga?

And them same niggas that laughed and joked

Dope piling, my nigga doing fifty in the mountains

A nigga gorgeous, rice pilaf and swordfish

These niggas wanna hang me on the cross



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I don't like that word because of its asymmetrical meaning. It's different when a black person uses it, and different when a white person uses it. It's so confusing!
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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I tried to listen to the things that you people have posted, but I just can't stand a 3 second loop with the word nigga repeated arrythmically on top of it for minutes on end. That must be the least progressive "music" in the world. 
I posted because of relevance and not because they're personal favorites (a couple of the ones I included I even dislike), but is there really all that much of that thing going on in the songs here?

You tell me:
Oh you meant one song. I don't care anyway. They can sing (or rap) it as much as they like.
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There is another thread on this site that gets into a lot of detail about this, its from several years ago.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I tried to listen to the things that you people have posted, but I just can't stand a 3 second loop with the word nigga repeated arrythmically on top of it for minutes on end. That must be the least progressive "music" in the world. 
I posted because of relevance and not because they're personal favorites (a couple of the ones I included I even dislike), but is there really all that much of that thing going on in the songs here?

You tell me:
Oh you meant one song. I don't care anyway. They can sing (or rap) it as much as they like.

No Hard Feelings: If the nigga by the furnace in the basement of the building... 

Saltwater: That overlooks a graveyard full of cancelled niggas...

The words is used in at least 3 of the 7 songs that you posted. 

So, no. I didn't mean one song. I just pointed out the most egregious one. 


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Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

I tried to listen to the things that you people have posted, but I just can't stand a 3 second loop with the word nigga repeated arrythmically on top of it for minutes on end. That must be the least progressive "music" in the world. 
I posted because of relevance and not because they're personal favorites (a couple of the ones I included I even dislike), but is there really all that much of that thing going on in the songs here?

You tell me:
Oh you meant one song. I don't care anyway. They can sing (or rap) it as much as they like.

No Hard Feelings: If the nigga by the furnace in the basement of the building... 

Saltwater: That overlooks a graveyard full of cancelled niggas...

The words is used in at least 3 of the 7 songs that you posted. 

So, no. I didn't mean one song. I just pointed out the most egregious one. 
Ok. You exaggerated, and we think differently. For me they can use whatever words they like. I didn't really take notice while listening, but those lyrics are fine to me. It's just their way of using words, and completely irrelevant as to whether I think music is progressive or not (although that's beside the point in this context).    
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Originally posted by Error Code 864G Error Code 864G wrote:

I believe that Kanye also sampled 21st Century Schizoid Man in his song "Power"

Yes he did!  His Highness Robert Fripp was NOT amused by that! 

If Bob had played his card right, he could have had Kanye rap on top of Fripp's Soundscapes....they both would have cleaned up!  
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Aesop Rock has sampled Rascal Reporters' 'Stabbing at Air' on his new album!



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Billy Woods, sample of Picchio dal Pozzo's Seppia
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Hi,

I imagine that within 10 years, almost all music will be said to be "sampled" in some way or form. It's not like we can not hear things these days, going back some 500 years or more ... and easily copy a small part or two.

Heck, classical music has been sampled/copied even more! I think Beethoven and Strauss are waiting for folks to copy them (or sample) so they can turn over in their graves and laugh. No one will remember these folks, but the originals are still there!
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Originally posted by auxfnx auxfnx wrote:


Billy Woods, sample of Picchio dal Pozzo's Seppia
Yes, I posted it on the first page, and it's "discussed" a couple of posts over here. I think Billy Woods/Armand Hammer/Euclid/Kenny Segal's use of samples are always spot on and very original.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by auxfnx auxfnx wrote:


Billy Woods, sample of Picchio dal Pozzo's Seppia
Yes, I posted it on the first page, and it's "discussed" a couple of posts over here. I think Billy Woods/Armand Hammer/Euclid/Kenny Segal's use of samples are always spot on and very original.

oops! nice one. i just stumbled upon it listening to the Picchio dal Pozzo album for the first time, had that 'oh sh*t i know that from being sampled!!' moment and just ran here to share :)
i agree, the Backwoodz albums have great use of sampling. this Woods album was produced by a producer called Preservation :)


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