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Points: 2771 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:33
Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Elvis - John Lennon always acknowledged the impact that hearing Elvis had on him, so no Elvis = no Beatles.

Finally..someone knows what the hell I am talking about.

 

No Beatles=Boundaries still existing in rock and roll

 

The Beatles opened up and made accessible the idea of incorporating other genres into rock music and making it extremely listenable. They tried several different types of music throughout the course of not several albums, but just one or two. You find me any other two albums from a single band that have had as much influence as Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. You can't, they laid the groundwork for rock for the next 40 some years. Elvis was influential, but the one that starts the genre doesn't always have the most important influence.



Yup I agree with floydaholic ...

I think the most changes to the system happened because of The Beatles, even if Elvis was very important to the bands of the 60s (including the Beatles themselves) ... everything about their approach was revolutionary (recording and writing their own material) ... the usage of the studio as an instrument ... the development of the album (as opposed to singles and EPs) ... the development of lyrical content ... early examples of fusion ...

first is not always most important or most influential ... Thales vs Aristotle for example
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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:43

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I chose the Beatles hear but in a free choice i would have chosen The Comets as they started Rock 'n' Roll and were would we be without them!

Hmm, I'm not sure The Comets actually started rock'n'roll. Although Rock Around The Clock was probably the first great rock'n'roll song, it's roots were around before that.

I've voted for The Beatles for a far greater musical influence than Presley. Although he was a great influence on The Beatles, he wasn't the only one (Holly was a bigger influence on McCartney). Presley was a singer and not really a musician - how many bands have based their musical styles on his?

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Elvis brought Rock and Roll to millions. He wasn't the first and didn't write his own stuff - but that's not what Pop music is about to this day.

The Beatles weren't the first to play Beat music, or use any of the techniques that they did - but they raised the bar several fold and were/are extraordinarily influential.

However, in terms of bringing something entirely new to the world of music and changing it forever, they didn't and couldn't do as much as Elvis;

Elvis took charisma to a new level - his talent lay in "being the King of Rock'n'Roll", not in any particular musical skill, but the sound his band and voice made combined with the huge publicity machine that created itself around him - not least because of the way he moved and made the girls scream - ensured that no-one would ever have the same impact on the world of music.

Style over substance - that's the major change that Elvis brought. And that's what pop "stars" do to this day.

The Beatles (thanks to George Martin) combined the two, but Elvis had already blazed the trail for them.

So Elvis changed it more, IMO.
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^^^^^

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I agree too!!
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I agree with Certif1ed that the Elvis changed the way the public look at Pop music more but the Beatles had a considerably greater effect on the music that can be seen to this day so in a way their equel because they effected 2 different things in music. 
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No doubt for me, The Beatles.
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Elvis brought Rock and Roll to millions. He wasn't the first and didn't write his own stuff - but that's not what Pop music is about to this day.

The Beatles weren't the first to play Beat music, or use any of the techniques that they did - but they raised the bar several fold and were/are extraordinarily influential.

However, in terms of bringing something entirely new to the world of music and changing it forever, they didn't and couldn't do as much as Elvis;

Elvis took charisma to a new level - his talent lay in "being the King of Rock'n'Roll", not in any particular musical skill, but the sound his band and voice made combined with the huge publicity machine that created itself around him - not least because of the way he moved and made the girls scream - ensured that no-one would ever have the same impact on the world of music.

Style over substance - that's the major change that Elvis brought. And that's what pop "stars" do to this day.

The Beatles (thanks to George Martin) combined the two, but Elvis had already blazed the trail for them.

So Elvis changed it more, IMO.

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