Classic Rock Bands Still Popular To Youth?

I find the notion that Can is "Classic Rock" much stranger than the fact that they have some (but limited) popularity today.

Edited by Atavachron - June 01 2023 at 13:48

^Fine. The anecdotical bit is that you think what your friends are into is representative. Just like I've done myself. I know all about their online popularity but the numbers don't add up. Can's a band that's referenced to and talked about more than actually listened to. Much like Faust or Amon Düül II, only bigger. Their music was forwardthinking and influential and Can is one of the hippest bands from the 1970's + the darlings of people who are deeply into music. But as most young folks haven't heard about them or knows who they are, they aren't really "a classic rock band still popular to youth".

^Well, the most listened to classic rock bands on Spotify are still the most listened to classic rock by young people. That's what we're discussing isn't it? Those are the same names you will find in the sales charts. Many of them has had successful movies made about them quite recently, a few has a song gone viral with some tik tok-video etc...

Atavachron wrote: ^ No I fundamentally disagree.   People listen to what they like not what's most popular, then or now.   There are reasons Zeppelin were so successful and considered by many to be the greatest rock band and that's because, 1) they kinda were, and 2) a whole bunch of people loved their music, and they all recognize the mistakes, flubs, shortcomings, and sloppiness of the band.   In fact for many, it was a plus and showed the character & soul missing from much music of that era.   There's also a reason some people think the Beatles were the greatest or the Stones or the Who, and it's not because those people are sheep any more than those who loved Michael Jackson or David Bowie or Prince.

To be in the music business for 50 years and witness that the majority of society's central importance is Led Zeppelin gets very old and tiring. Western culture has it all wrapped up. Jimmy Page is the greatest Rock guitarist and John Bonham the greatest drummer. People don't acknowledge Ian Paice or Ronnie Montrose .

If you walk into a Wawa for coffee and another musician simply states that playing Led Zeppelin songs for a buck is a serious drag...watch most or all People turn their head your way. It's like a religion. It's extremism to the point of no return. Some people will shake their head in disbelief of what your musician friend is saying and they will in fact defend their position like a religion.

In the music business Led Zeppelin are shoved down your throat. They are overrated in that sense. Just the fact that all the other internationally known Rock musicians are not generally seen in the same light as Led Zeppelin is a silly concept and it lacks glory. Just give Led Zeppelin Park Place and Boardwalk and start the game. It's ignorant stupidity.

When you think about all the phenomenal innovative Rock bands in the late 60s and early 70s and their amazing music it seems rather foolish for most people to agree that Led Zeppelin are the greatest Rock band on the planet. It's irrelevant if they like them or not..as they will agree to disagree for the sake of not offending someone's favorite music taste. It's a red flag if you simply and kindly say.."It's not a style I prefer"

It brings harm to the music business. It's about following one path which is very bravado, egotistical and nonsensical. People who know that Zeppelin are not the greatest Rock band on the planet will say that they are because they are glib. That ruins it for the musician because now they have to tow this ridiculous line to survive.

When people in the crowd appreciate your playing and they discover that you don't like the music of Zeppelin they dislike you. That's not very nice to impose on the rest of the world now is it? We're not playing God..we're playing music and here they are putting rules to it..and that's not extremism?

Not all professional musicians will see the blueprint of Zeppelin's mechanism as the ultimate goal in music. Why should they? That's like pressuring society to praise only Beethoven and not Bach. So J.S. Bach gets the cesspool part right? The degrade of credit...the much lesser of the two. In Rock Music Deep Purple, UFO, Thin Lizzy, and Ronnie Montrose get the lesser amount of credit. That's ridiculous!

To think that we're bestowed with a theory and stupid enough to think that our intelligence has only one purpose. Obviously the majority of the population is controlled by their music emotionally which puts a huge limitation on searching for other music. Let's stop putting all our quarters in the same machine. Music happens everywhere without the echo of Led Zeppelin. It's not an intelligent design. It's entanglement that achieves a nothing.

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - June 02 2023 at 10:43

Edited by Atavachron - June 02 2023 at 14:50

Atavachron wrote: ^^ Wow you really have a Led Zeppelin chip-on-your-shoulder. I understand your grievances against a band as popular as they were, the illusions of music and show business in general--  Zeppelin can be faulted for a great deal, it's true:  musical poaching, aggressive business tactics, debauchery.   But on a good night they brought it in a way none of their peers could ever consider matching---  not Hendrix, not Floyd, not the Who, not Yes, none of them could match Led Zep's astounding ability to improvise, musically expand, and take bold risks in concert most musicians wouldn't dare trying for fear of failure.   Zep weren't afraid and for that they must pay the price of history's scorn.

The Dark Elf wrote: Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:   In the music business Led Zeppelin are shoved down your throat. They are overrated in that sense. Just the fact that all the other internationally known Rock musicians are not generally seen in the same light as Led Zeppelin is a silly concept and it lacks glory. Just give Led Zeppelin Park Place and Boardwalk and start the game. It's ignorant stupidity.  I think you have issues that transcend Led Zeppelin. They were a great band, and opposed to your nonsensical take, I am continually pleasantly surprised at all the "reaction" videos on YouTube where younger folks are discovering Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath for the first time. The wide-eyed amazement seems genuine. Genuine shock that they have gone most of their lives without hearing these legends of rock, and now they're listening to bands that evidently the older population has taken for granted (or overheard over time).  It's quite interesting to see these millenials hearing "Stairway to Heaven" or "Kashmir" for the first time, and then comparing it to the dross and offal that's flung about as music currently ("Hey, he's actually singing without auto-tune!"). I'm not sure what "music business" you're in that is shoving Led Zeppelin down your throat. I've been in bands since the late 70s...Zeppelin has never been a requirement; in fact, bands that mimicked Zeppelin over time like Kingdom Come, Great White or even today with Greta Van Fleet are often mocked for their Ledded pretensions.

You don't see how they are overrated? I realize that you like them and that's fine. I do see them as a requirement and that's been on going for decades. Even in 2023 with many bar bands in the tri state area.

I understand why they are loved. How could I not? In the early 70s at age 15 my mother showed me all of Page's open tunings and my father guided me through his electric solos. I enjoyed playing Zeppelin material in Rock clubs and concert halls.

I sense the band is overrated by society when compared to other bands in Rock. I remember the band Detective who were signed to Swan Song. They sounded a bit like Zeppelin. Zeppelin had a unique style and Page was a fine writer..but so was Ian Anderson and several others in those times. It's important to acknowledge the fact that they are overrated when compared to other bands of their time.

Atavachron wrote: ^^ Wow you really have a Led Zeppelin chip-on-your-shoulder.

Me? Or was it adressed to Jacob Schoolcraft? Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands. I, II, III & IV were all among my ten first albums. 

^ Right. Thanks! I had no idea. I guess I thought it was the same as using a lot of exclamation marks!!!!!!