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Poll Question: Which song do you like better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 11:55

Having grown up with both and listened to both extensivly not too long ago.

  Tarkus ROCKS!!!

I like CTTE but it does get stagnant to me in parts (Jon Anderson sings some of those parts with a monotone and at his range it is annoying). 

Tarkus is way more intense. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:19

CCTE!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:46
CTTE by a mile for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:58
I love them both very passionately.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:59
CLOSE TO THE EDGE...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 01:18

difficult poll

i love both the album

cant live without them

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 03:36

i prefer ctte, tarkus has some filler in the second part

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 04:43
Close To The Edge will obviously cream Tarkus.Even though I'm an ELP fan I still voted for CTTE.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 05:31
hmm well  Tarkus and CTTE are  wonderful songs and that is the only common trait of them so I don't see a point in this comparison...

I like Tarkus very much especially version  which is on Live In Poland
The shape of this version is quite similar to the one from Royal Albert hall but i doesn't contain
any  silly mistakes like some cheap digital leads instead of piano interlude (if you heard this you probably know what i'm talking about)

For me CTTE is the essence of progressive rock of the seventies. I had the oportunity to hear it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 09:20
Yes beats ELP any day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 09:52
I'll be the first to like them both equally .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 14:03

I enjoy them both very much too, but I rate the Tarkus suite higher than CTTE for its complexity, sheer raw energy, and the instrumentation. Not to mention that fact that it was (and still is) so original. But I like the way Garion81 put it: Tarkus ROCKS.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 11:04
WOW! I was going to do a poll on this, but figured I better check first if it had been done.


results......surprising.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 11:05
Originally posted by margaret margaret wrote:

WOW! I was going to do a poll on this, but figured I better check first if it had been done.


results......suprising.


voted for both. Both are amazing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 12:15
apples and oranges.....t*tties and beer....Svedka and Hennessey....

I like both in all pairs, but they're too dissimilar to accurately compare.
I chose the third option.............
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:49

the real question is at the time am in the mood for ELP or YES but i would say CTTE is what i listen to more

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:56
Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

 The very best prog prototipe VS. Prog-pop with simple choruses repeated over and over?

  Tarkus has way more ideas in the first 10 minutes of the title track than all "Close to the edge" (album).

 There is no need to argue. Just listen to the notes on Tarkus. Then listen to the "I get up I get down I get up I get down, I get up I get down , I get up I get down I get up I get down"., the "Close to the edge down by the corner, close to the edge down by the river" choruses repeated all over. Meanwhile, Tarkus never repeats a single word. That is called creativity and songwritting skills. In other words, "talent".

UMMM...WRONG AGAIN!!!!............What YES did is called COMPOSITION...........there is a thing called...HAVING TOO MANY IDEAS IN A PIECE OF MUSIC.....that usually speaks of WEAK composition. I like both Tarkus and Close to The Edge...but first off... Tarkus is an album mostly of songs, with the exception of the first three tracks which are connected....but Close to Edge is only three tracks. There is certainly more unity of form and a stronger sense of direction in Close To The Edge than Tarkus......oh God this is why we need music education in public schools!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:00
Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

Well, definitely most people like CTTE better than Tarkus. I´ll tell you why; Yes has always been more accesible than many other prog bands. Some may try to ignore it or just don´t want to see it, but those choruses repeated all over are just too pop. That´s why CTTE is so likeable.

Even among prog heads the melodic element is the most important. Plus, even among prog heads, there are some that are more conventional than others. Those who would rather listen to nice entertaining and sing along choruses will always choose CTTE vs tarkus.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:39
Originally posted by Proglover Proglover wrote:

Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

Well, definitely most people like CTTE better than Tarkus. I´ll tell you why; Yes has always been more accesible than many other prog bands. Some may try to ignore it or just don´t want to see it, but those choruses repeated all over are just too pop. That´s why CTTE is so likeable.

Even among prog heads the melodic element is the most important. Plus, even among prog heads, there are some that are more conventional than others. Those who would rather listen to nice entertaining and sing along choruses will always choose CTTE vs tarkus.

 

You really have no idea of what you speak...................

Jajaja.....I´m glad you replied.

The way I see it. An 18 minute SONG is too long ¡¡¡. It may be entertaining as well, as "Close" is. But I could not imagine "Broken wings" by Mr. Mister as an 18 minute song with that middle section converted into a 5 minutes section just to make it last that long.

Of course, "Close" has way more instrumental arguments to keep the listener busy during 18 minutes despite that 5 minutes of quiet section in the middle.

That´s the problem with "Close", to me al least. That it is ONE single song with the number of ideas of only ONE song, lasting for 18 minutes ¡¡¡¡. Now, that´s not the problem. Most songs are only one song. In prog as you well know, one song may consist of many moods, with changing intensity. But "Close" has too little of that. Plus, it has those repetitive POP-like choruses over that conventional pop structure that make of "Close" a very predictable song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2005 at 16:22
Of all the current CttE match-ups, this one is by far the easiest. I don't like ELP, I don't like Tarkus.
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