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Zeph
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Good suggestion.
I have listened to a few albums, but know little of their catalogue, which I see
is quite large.
I have
listened to them, but sparsely since they have limited tracks on Spotify and even
difficult to find on Youtube. Not on Bandcamp either. Maybe I can find them
somewhere else.
I love
Procol Harum and they has got some stellar live performances with orchestra. It’s
not exactly what I was looking for, but great prog played with an orchestra often
becomes something great.
Amazing
album. They do have an orchestra listed on the PA info site, but I can’t recall
how much is was used. Guess I gave myself an excuse to listen to it again.
He has
pieces that sound like they were composed with orchestra in mind, but were
played by a rock group. I think this is really clear on live versions of Dog
Breath/Uncle Meat from 73 and 74. Some of those pieces ended up being arranged
for orchestra, while others were originally WRITTEN for orchestra, like Bob in
Dacron or Mo 'n' Herb's Vacation. Check out his London Symphony Orchestra
volumes or The Yellow Shark for examples of both (not for the faint of heart). I have
never gotten into Zappa, but I’ll check out some of those suggestions. I’m primarily
looking for music written for and recorded with an orchestra.
Check out
the song Avamäng 2020 I like what
I heard, so I’ll check out some more. Thanks.
If you want
to listen to a true orchestra sound then could just start with these in
addition to previously mentioned ones. * Mike
Oldfield's The Orchestral Tubular Bells with the London Symphony Orchestra. Pick almost
any prog band and turn it to orchestra.
But for me the best example will always be Orchestral Tubular Bells. Isilidur's
Bane especially Mind Vol.1 whenever I listen to it I keep thinking that an
orchestra should play it. Some of
those I’m familiar with, some not. I’ll make sure to try them all. These are
prime examples of what I want, IF the original album was written and recorded
that way. I love listening to familiar albums with orchestra added, but I would
like to find some new music that I’m not familiar with, and where the orchestra
is in the original recording. I suppose symphonic versions of albums I haven’t
heard before in the original version also works to some degree since I’m not
used to the original recording. I don’t
know how to explain it more than I already have, but I’ll try. There are
many great prog rock albums that has been performed live or on an album with
the addition of an orchestra, but the music was originally not written for one.
I’ll accept those submissions, but most of them I’ve either heard or heard the
original album. I’m interested in discovering new music. I’ll try
with some examples and explain why it does or does not fit the main goal. Yes –
Symphonic Live: No, because they are playing music Yes originally made without
an orchestra in mind.
I like the
few sample songs I’ve tried so far, but the orchestral elements aren’t too
pronounced. Will try some more.
I tried ELO
a few times, but they haven’t made me excited so far. I’ll give them a new try
with this subject in mind.
I found a
UK band, but not orchestral examples. Any albums you specifically thought of?
If I found the correct band that is.
I’m
familiar with them, but do they have orchestral elements (besides the name)? |
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Maybe this refers to the Uriah Heep album of that name? |
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I'm a bit confused by your question too. But written symphonic for prog, I would say Aaron Copland with Fanfare For The Common Man. Not purposefully, naturally.
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Steve Hackett's Metamorpheus probably qualifies.
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Good call, and he did a Midsummer Nights Dream with the Royal Philharmonic.
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Here are another couple more that you might want to try out: London Philharmonic Orchestra: Kashmir: Symphonic Led Zeppelin London Philharmonic Orchestra: Us and Them: Symphonic Pink Floyd |
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From Wikipedia: Apocalypse is the Mahavishnu Orchestra's fourth album, released in 1974. It is performed by the second line-up of the Mahavishnu Orchestra and the London Symphony Orchestra. It was produced by George Martin, who regards it as “one of the best records [he has] ever made”.[5] |
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Does chamber music count? "Prelude: Song of the Gulls" (instrumental) from Islands, written by R. Fripp.
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Barclay James Harvest were another band that worked extensively with orchestra's early on (before the record company decided it was too expensive!)
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Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto No. 1 comes to mind (though I don't think it's very good, personally)
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Magnification by Yes was written for an orchestra. Larry Groupé wrote the orchestration for the album. Personally speaking, Magnification is one of Yes' most underrated, under appreciated albums.
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Which is probably just a pretentious way of saying I didn't like it much either
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prog related - "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin was recorded with the London Philharmonic Orchestra.
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I'm kind of surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet but I'll say:
...di terra by Banco This album was recorded with an orchestra and has elements of classical and jazz. Pretty underrated album imo and an absolute must own for anyone into this kind of thing.
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One of my favorites by Mahavishu Orchestra....electric instruments plus orchestra plus choral vocals! Heaven!
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^You can also listen to a more contemporary concert released on the album "200 Motels: The Suites," released in 2015.
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Hi, I don't think so, but then, I consider a lot of the music we love, the "classical music" of out time, by the folks our age, and this idea formulates some different things. For example, TFTO would be a Symphony for a rock group, done in 4 parts. CTTE is a symphonic work. This is a problem, though, since a lot of folks here on PA do not think that "progressive rock" or "prog" should/could do anything with an orchestra. Many groups have used an orchestra IN THE BACKGROUND, and only Caravan, that I remember actually had some music written to be added to the score for the orchestra to augment the concert ... but prog/progressive fans do not like that album, and (sometimes) I wonder what the problem is ... and the issue is ... progressive rock and prog fans, want to get away from classical music, even if many of the groups were inspired by a lot of classical music and many of their players had some form of music training that had classical tendencies, not modern tendencies! I think the time will come when someone will write for an orchestra, but when we revere someone that only plays 6 or 7 different keyboard instruments, and basically does the same thing on them, it makes it almost impossible for any great creators of music to actually do something. Wait a minute ... we got a problem! Folks like Ryuichi Sakamoto has written for an orchestra, and even has an Oscar in his closet for it! But that doesn't count because he is not "prog" or "progressive" within the description by the book of colors. My thoughts are that eventually, an orchestra will be included ... with one problem, it will have to be several synthesizers playing it since hiring an orchestra these days is prohibitive and their musician's union, has killed their ability to even play at the MET, since there is not enough money to go around ... and the answer is? Orchestra's will be dead for a while and will only be revived the day that keyboard players stop playing the same thing on keyboards, and start adding music to it, in the style of classical music ... when in most cases the keyboards are just doing melody and background for the guitar player. Until the day that this rock'n'roll idea gets dumped and changed, I don't think that it is possible, and music quality will suffer tremendously for it ... but our tastes are fickle ... for hundreds of years people hated "new music" ... because they didn't know it or heard it so they could evaluate ... and we are doing the same thing!
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Not true - I'm more than happy with classical music in prog, and I also like that Caravan album. Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush.
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