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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

This band is a bit off the radar when discussing prog-metal. Love this album.



One of the best prog metal albums. So colourful and such virtuosity in all the instruments and also vocals. Randy Coven played the bass guitar here. He sadly departed a couple of years ago. I watched him and the drummer John Macaluso (who is also in this album) when they came to Turkey with Yngwie Malmsteen. I can confidently say that Coven stole the show. I guess the singer was Mark Boals, one of the best voices in metal. 


Anyway, Ark - Burn the Sun is a masterpiece. I think on this song (Heal the Waters), the drummer John Macaluso shines the brightest. Also the singer is Jorn Lande. So we're confronted with a galactic star team here.

Edit: The guitarist is Tore Ostby. Another legendary talent.


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^Thanks for the kind words about Ark. 

Here is an older song (2011) but another band that deserves more appreciation. 



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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

This band is a bit off the radar when discussing prog-metal. Love this album.


one of my favorites as well, I wanted to post Heal the Waters and Waking Hour last night, but I thought I shouldn't abuse (for lack of a better word) the thread with videos. Smile
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Not discussed much here, occasionally, but that's cause most of the progressive metal-heads Big smile have moved over to the PA sister site Metal Music Archives MMA (http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/)


TBH not much discussion there either anymore unfortunately. 
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Early 90's prog/tech extreme is my favorite sub genre, I wish it had a larger community on here!

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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can we not complain anymore actually discuss, mention bands we listen and like and so on. Just saying... 
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:



One of the best prog metal albums. So colourful and such virtuosity in all the instruments and also vocals. Randy Coven played the bass guitar here. He sadly departed a couple of years ago. I watched him and the drummer John Macaluso (who is also in this album) when they came to Turkey with Yngwie Malmsteen. I can confidently say that Coven stole the show. I guess the singer was Mark Boals, one of the best voices in metal. 


Anyway, Ark - Burn the Sun is a masterpiece. I think on this song (Heal the Waters), the drummer John Macaluso shines the brightest. Also the singer is Jorn Lande. So we're confronted with a galactic star team here.

Edit: The guitarist is Tore Ostby. Another legendary talent.

Tore Ostby is the guitarist of Conception, I'm sure you knew that. Smile
 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

can we not complain anymore actually discuss, mention bands we listen and like and so on. Just saying... 

Sure we can, it just keeps getting ignored. I made an entire thread for Pestilence Spheres that nobody cared about, lol Wink.

This track in particular exemplifies progressive rock odd meter/time riffing IMHO, wait for the main riff to kick in before first verse:




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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

can we not complain anymore actually discuss, mention bands we listen and like and so on. Just saying... 

Sure we can, it just keeps getting ignored. I made an entire thread for Pestilence Spheres that nobody cared about, lol Wink.


I don't think you are ignored, just that people either don't know or do not listen to progressive death metal. 
I know Pestilence, although I haven't listened to them in a long time. Guitar work and rhythm section are great, the vocals not so much. If the vocals don't grate my ear I can listen to any kind of death metal. 
There are a few bands but not that many. Embarrassed
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This is a new heavy prog band for me. Raw, energetic, and fun.



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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

This is a new heavy prog band for me.


too quirky for my taste, I don't like the vocals much either. 
But I understand the appeal, at least. 
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^I dig the vocals. Lots of passion. Kind of a cross between Courtney Swain (Bent Knee) and Cedric Bixler (The Mars Volta).
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Another heavy prog entry.

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I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Tore Ostby is the guitarist of Conception, I'm sure you knew that. Smile


Sure I do. Smile
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

Growling is a hit and miss with me, but I like death metal Opeth, that kind of growling I don't mind. I like bands like Edge of Sanity, but then again it's Dan Swano, whether he sings (Nightingale) or growls (Witherscape), I'll give him a chnce. His solo album from 1998 - Moontower is excellent, it's got neo-prog, progressive metal and death metal all in one.  LOL


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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

This is the camp I am in with progressive metal and growling which has zero appeal to me, it's not an instrument that sounds good, it's like a kazoo on steroids, I am sure none of us here like auto-tune vocals of the pop world either.

There is TONS of prog-metal that I am not going to post videos but the ones I like are:
DT
Mind Key
Riverside
Threshold
Redemption
Circus Maximus

There are many I am forgetting right now but you get the gist.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I like Dream Theater and Ayreon type prog metal and instrumental prog metal like Animals as Leaders or Thought Chamber.   I'm not a fan of Cookie Monster vocals though.  Those ruin bands for me.  I know that everyone says just think of them as another instrument, but they are an "instrument" that I just don't like.  Early Opeth instrumentally is awesome, but I can't listen to them because of the singing.  I like latter day Opeth because the singing is generally really good, but they're not really all that metal on their latter albums. 

This is the camp I am in with progressive metal and growling which has zero appeal to me, it's not an instrument that sounds good, it's like a kazoo on steroids, I am sure none of us here like auto-tune vocals of the pop world either.

There is TONS of prog-metal that I am not going to post videos but the ones I like are:
DT
Mind Key
Riverside
Threshold
Redemption
Circus Maximus

There are many I am forgetting right now but you get the gist.

good bands, you can post whatever videos you like, the OP is a newbie to the world of progressive metal. 

Wanna bet I can post some Dream Theater rarities you have not heard? Evil Smile
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^Give it your best shot, Chrsti.

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Give it your best shot, Chrsti.

ok, first song, one that did not make it on Images & Words (but neither did A Change of Seasons, there is a live version with Kevin Moore, in 1993). 


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