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"Big 6" Major Omissions! Gentle Giant vs. Camel |
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progaardvark 
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Gentle Giant for me. I would probably also pick VDGG and Renaissance ahead of Camel.
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Grumpyprogfan
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:03 |
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Giant was innovative and electrifying. All members played multiple instruments. Camel was predictable and calm.
Giant should be a "big 6" band. Axe ELP or KC. |
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verslibre
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:51 |
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Camel.
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verslibre
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 10:52 |
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Nope. Not gonna happen!
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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What about Van der Graaf Generator? I think they get left out of the conversation more than anyone and deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Camel and GG.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:52 |
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Camel, though I love most GG.
Camel are the best band in history for their longevity and the quality of their output. Only IQ come close. They didn't try to experiment as much as GG, but they had a chemistry as a band that no-one else can match. Plus, they are THE masters of melody and Andy Latimer has recorded more wonderful guitar solos than anyone else. Neither can be Big 6 as they just didn't sell enough albums, but I'd rate both above any of those in the Big 6.
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 14:57 |
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Outside of the top six: VDGG Gentle Giant PFM Kansas Camel |
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 15:23 |
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The Big 6 are the Big 6 because they are popular. Period. I like many Gentle Giant records more than most of the Big 6, but it doesn't make them a "major omission" unless thousands of people suddenly traded their love of the Big 6 for Gentle Giant. If it hasn't happened thus far, its not going to.
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 16:03 |
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Really like Gentle Giant (especially in recent years), but I love Camel!
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 16:06 |
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Multiple vote possible? Be careful.....
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 21:34 |
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If you're going to put Renaissance up there with the others you can't leave Frank Zappa out.
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Well if we're including Zappa... Yes Genesis Pink Floyd Emerson, Lake, And Palmer King Crimson Jethro Tull Frank Zappa Renaissance Camel Gentle Giant Camel Premiata Formerai Marconi Rush Kansas Van Der Graaf Generator How about a big 15? Any more major omissions?
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Posted: June 16 2020 at 23:37 |
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Love both, oranges and apples, cant vote!
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Posted: June 17 2020 at 01:20 |
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Well, you listed Camel twice there...
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In the UK, the big 6 reinforced their positions with major hit singles (I know, anathema to prog purists). Even King Crimson appeared on Top of the Pops in 1970 (the major single chart TV show watched by millions for non UK readers). Thus, they were in the wider public consciousness. Only Renaissance managed this towards the end of the 70s with 'Northern Lights'. Zappa is on a different plane but no one has mentioned Mike Oldfield - he had the kind of chart success to match the Big 6 in the 70s although the hit singles did not start to come until the early 80s.
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 oopsHm, okay swap out Camel number two for... I dunno, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Or maybe get some fusion representation in there... how about Return To Forever?
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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I mean yeah, I get why the big 6 are what they are, same as thrash metal's big 4. It came down to commercial success, but are't we far enough away from that now that we could make a new list of the most popular prog artists based on something a little more artistically significant than sales?
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Rick1
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Well, then personal tastes comes into it rather than an objective metric. For instance, if pushed my top six would remove Jethro Tull and King Crimson and insert Henry Cow and Magma but I doubt many would agree!
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Posted: June 17 2020 at 03:11 |
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Gentle Giant without a doubt.
They had a run of 6 albums that are all masterpieces IMO (ATT / TF / O / IAGH / TPATG / FH) plus 2 very good albums (The debut and Interview) They were unique, exceptional musicians, and would be in my top 6 every time. |
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Manuel
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Posted: June 17 2020 at 06:08 |
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Is too close to call for me. I love both of them very much.
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