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I prophesy disaster
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Same.
And another 30 points for "Thick as a Brick" for me as well. |
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Sean Trane
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except that TAAB is not a prog folk album, not even close. If Tull is in PF, it's mainly because of their SFTW, HH and Sw albums We've had talks about changing them from genre, but there was a poll that said they were thought of the epitome of PF.
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I prophesy disaster
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I can accept that, because if TAAB was a prog folk album, I probably wouldn't like it (whereas I do like it... because it rocks). However, Prog Folk is how TAAB is classified by PA, so that's how I classify it for the purpose of these threads. |
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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kenethlevine
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I wouldn't know where to begin or end. It's the best sub genre just as sure as Leo is the best sign of the zodiac
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kenethlevine
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Tull and Strawbs are way more proggy than Fairport and Steeleye. They are both primarily prog artists, with folk thrown in here and there to varying degrees, Strawbs obviously more than Tull, while Steeleye and Fairport are the opposite. There may be some other possible miscategorizations but I don't think these are inexplicable at all. I think the best way to visualize this is looking at the core run of albums by each artists during their commercial and artistic peaks, which are more or less coincident for arguments sake. Those of Fairport and Steeleye are folk rock albums, with a bit more prog creeping into Steeleye than into Fairport. Those of Strawbs are prog folk and those of Tull are eclectic prog, I mean prog folk! Stackridge? Who cares? The best thing they ever did was "Everyone's Gotta Learn Sometime" by Korgis
Edited by kenethlevine - March 14 2020 at 12:18 |
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Grumpyprogfan
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The administers do their best, and maybe TAAB is not prog folk. Eclectic may be a better choice?
One of my gripes is Sanguine Hum are labeled neo on PA, when the earlier version of the same band, Antiques Seeking Nuns, are labeled Canterbury. No change to the musicial compositions, so both should be labeled Canterbury. Yes? |
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Psychedelic Paul
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This is how the poll looks so far after the first count-up of the votes:-
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (102 points) 2. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (50 points) 3. COMUS - First Utterance (33 points) 4. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance of the Celtic Harp (30 points) 4. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 7. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice & Rats in the Loft (29 points) 8. FLAIRCK - Gevecht met de Engel (20 points) 8. SPIROGYRA - Bells, Boots & Shambles (20 points) 8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (20 points)
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Psychedelic Paul
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I just discovered that Stormcock is a Roy Harper album, which puts him at second place in the poll. There's no sign of the Strawbs in the Top 10 so far though.
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dr wu23
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We'll agree to disagree....both Fairport and Span belong in that category as much as those named...period. But then I don't run the web site.....or it would be different. Again this is all totally subjective depending on who is calling the shots. ;)
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dr wu23
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Btw..some of those that are in the category probably wouldn't even be there..or exist even... if it weren't for bands like Fairport and Span who blazed a path for them.
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kenethlevine
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can't argue with that but that doesn't make them prog folk
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Dellinger
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I'm here more out of curiosity for knowing more of Prog Folk, since I hardly know these bands besides Jethro Tull... but I would have expected some Strawbs to be featured in such a list. And from Tull, from a folk perspective, I guess Songs from the Wood should have it's place too. |
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Sean Trane
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1- HARMONIUM - Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan Jan Dukes De Grey - Mice & Rats in the Loft Comus - First Utterances SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds Tea & Symphony - An Asylum For The Musically Insane Hoelderlin's Traum Ripaille - La Vieille Que L'On Brula String Driven Thing - Machine That Cried 10- Pentangle - Reflection
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kenethlevine
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ok here is my list, knowing that the presence and positions of these albums could vary minute by minute
1) Pererin - Teithgan 2) Strawbs Ghosts 3) Corde Oblique - A Hail of Bitter Almonds 4) Midlake - The Courage of Others 5) Alan Stivell - Renaissance de la Harpe Celtique 6) Clannad - Dulaman 7) Faveravola - Contea dei Cento Castagni 8) Itoiz - Ezekiel 9) Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer 10) Moving Hearts - Moving Hearts I left out Tull's TAAB because it's not really prog folk and will probably win anyway. I love SFTW and HH but it's not quite top 10 love
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Logan
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I'll give this a go as progressive folk is one of my favourite catagories. There are so many to choose from. I'm much more of a folky than a rocker at heart. I do tend to favour acid folk.
1. Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer 2. Comus - First Utterance 3. Spirogra - St. Radigunds 4. Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun 5. Aktuala - Aktuala 6. Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms 7. Ragnarök - Ragnarök 8. The Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter 9. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft 10. Pearls Before Swine - The Use Of Ashes There are so many others I could have gone for. Edited by Logan - March 14 2020 at 15:16 |
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The Dark Elf
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Unhalfbricking and Liege & Lief by Fairport certainly should be viewed as "Progressive Folk", as should an album like Pentangle's A Basket of Light or Cruel Sister. |
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dr wu23
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And you would be correct...but our resident expert kennethlevine says no, nay , not so, never..... |
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kenethlevine
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actually I agree about Pentangle
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BrufordFreak
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I missed that poll! Tull has always been more of a rock or blues rock band to me; their folkiness is often minimal and/or incidental. I think I often feel the same about a lot of the Strawbs, Roy Harper, Fuschsia, and even John Martyn: Folk Rock. The epitome or essence of Prog Folk would be, for me, Gryphon or Pererin or Spirogyra or Fotheringay or Iona or Midlake or Corde Oblique or Faun or some of Ant Phillips work (Geese and Private Pieces) or Holderlein
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Drew Fisher
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Psychedelic Paul
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I'd love to have included the votes for Harmonium in my Prog Folk poll, but they're in the Symphonic Prog section of PA.
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