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Tony Hill, guitar player and singer of High Tide, also sounds somewhat like Jim Morrison in some tracks, for example this one:


French Guitarist Christian Boulé seems to emulate Steve Hillage on his two solo albums; here an example:


Some artists are not easy to emulate though. If you want a challenge try emulating Barbara Dennerlein Wink:





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Jim Morrison is one of the most emulated singers in all of rock
Common now...
Dead Can Dance, Echo & The Bunnymen, The Cult, Nick Cave and a whole slew of bands enamoured with new romanticism took their cue from Jim.
....and well he kind of borrowed his style from Frank Sinatra right

The Doors though as a whole is perhaps one of the most unique sounding bands of all time, and yes I have never heard another band come even remotely close to the sound of what a flamenco guitarist playing blues, a classically trained organist, a jazz drummer as well as a Caucasian medicine man achieved. Unique is perhaps an understatement with regards to The Doors

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Jim Morrison is one of the most emulated singers in all of rock
Common now...
Dead Can Dance, Echo & The Bunnymen, The Cult, Nick Cave and a whole slew of bands enamoured with new romanticism took their cue from Jim.
....and well he kind of borrowed his style from Frank Sinatra right

The Doors though as a whole is perhaps one of the most unique sounding bands of all time, and yes I have never heard another band come even remotely close to the sound of what a flamenco guitarist playing blues, a classically trained organist, a jazz drummer as well as a Caucasian medicine man achieved. Unique is perhaps an understatement with regards to The Doors

John Densmore, the drummer of The Doors, is one of the most underrated drummers on this forum. He is excellent. And he is not emulated at all. The drummer who in my opinion mostly resembles him in style is the late Christian Burchard of Embryo. But take this with a grain of salt; while there are certain similarities they are still miles apart. And Burchard, like Densmore, is extremely underrated.


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I agree with everything you just said
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You are one of the few Burchard appreciators on this forum. I just read what you posted about Burchard's drumming in another thread. Let me quote:

Embryo - Live Bremen (talk about a wild and almost transcendant live album! No guitars but violin, flute, bass and those caveman drums from Christian Burchard. He’s one of those who is impossible to play like. Ask any skilled drummer to play like Palmer or Peart and they get quite close..because it’s meters and counting and so forth...not so much with the likes of Burchard....but man does it ever cook! and does things to the surrounding musicians that basically sets them free.)

Yep, you nailed it.

Here an excerpt from that album you mentioned:


Be patient; for some reason there is no sound in the first 27 seconds.


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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I agree with the Gentle Giant suggestion (though Advent do try), but I wanted to place Demetrio Stratos (AREA singer/keyboard player) into the fray. I haven't heard many singers dive so deeply into the extreme potentialities of the human voice.


Stratos's distinct yodel was itself strongly influenced by American jazz singer Leon Thomas. Listen to his singing on this record and tell me you don't hear the resemblance:

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Hi,

The ladies beat me to HIGH TIDE.

However, I will say that no one can do Jim Morrison as long as they are "singing a rock song" ... because Jim, in many ways was not singing a "rock song" and he made sure to make those regular songs sound bad/weird, and was instead telling you a story from a movie in his head.

Until you get a "singer" that lives his "movie" instead of being a rock song singer, you are not going to have an emulation of Jim Morrison that will not only shake your boots, it will also scare the living poop out of your veins!

The one example I have, and I doubt that anyone can "emulate" him is Peter Hammill? Why? There is only one poet/writer/singer like Peter Hammill ... himself ... just like there is only one Shakespeare, one Mozart, one this and one that ... and trying to "emulate" that person or another ... is the single biggest reason why so many folks will never make it in music! Look at history ... not many "emulators" per se! Rock music will be the same!
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You are one of the few Burchard appreciators on this forum. I just read what you posted about Burchard's drumming in another thread. Let me quote:

Embryo - Live Bremen (talk about a wild and almost transcendant live
album! No guitars but violin, flute, bass and those caveman drums from <span ="highlight"="">Christian</span> <span ="highlight"="">Burchard</span>.
He’s one of those who is impossible to play like. Ask any skilled
drummer to play like Palmer or Peart and they get quite close..because
it’s meters and counting and so forth...not so much with the likes of <span ="highlight"="">Burchard</span>....but man does it ever cook! and does things to the surrounding musicians that basically sets them free.)

Yep, you nailed it.

Here an excerpt from that album you mentioned:


Be patient; for some reason there is no sound in the first 27 seconds.



I generally go for drummers that echo what Burchard was all about, which in effect was to breathe life into the music..not via the metronome route but through fluctuations within the beat and just sheer feel and intonation. I get that from Jaki and Leopold as well even if they sound completely different.
Personally I think it’s to do with jazz. A lot of these players either came from a jazz background and/or was vastly influenced by the new jazz-rock of the time. Also what gave a lot of 60s bands their ‘sound’.
When I see jazz drummers nowadays shifting genres, I often see them opting for metal - preferably the more technical side of things...but alas that often takes away ‘the freedom’ within their drumming, and instead of finding some compromise where this element doesn’t completely evaporate from the sound, I mostly hear the drummer conforming to the more ‘tick-tock’-like metronome style...which is a pity mho.

Edith because my phone wanted pity to be pitty

Edited by Guldbamsen - February 10 2020 at 11:00
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