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Vompatti
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I'd take Dreyer's Vampyr over Nosferatu.
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moshkito
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Hi, Hard to decide ... I love the wording by Bela Lugosi, and how it comes out through his accent ... the wording makes you really "see" what he is saying ... and this makes the film feel better, and not just a "film", which is something I really like. NOSFERATU, both the original and Werner Herzog's, are for me, more of a show about German arts and literature and its seriousness at times. The way Werner Herzog uses the music accentuates the visual really well and some of its sets remind me of a book I used to have that was about theater stage sets in the early part of the 20th century in Germany, that was used in Operas and such. That use of one color and long shot/vision with very simple stage designs is astonishing, and a visual treat. Werner Herzog merely tried to re-create that in my book. I am not sure that, otherwise, I would pick this film over the original. The DRACULA series with Christopher Lee out of the HAMMER STUDIOS is actually very enjoyable, and probably specially so due to Peter Cushing, whose presence added something to the films, that otherwise would be difficult to act out and not sound cardboard or funny. Ken Russell's version in LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM, is, for me, not as much fun. Probably because Ken had a habit of trying to blow things up in the screen to the point where the appreciation kind goes ... what? But it is a nice film, with a good cast. DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS is something I saw a long time ago, and my trying to remember the details is too spotty for me to comment. But the film was very strong, and quite good, and it's a shame that it got buried due to its thematic content, more than likely. Not like Carmilla, was not the same similar thing and it was written around the 1870's. It's best staging that I have seen was a production by the ETC La Mamma Group, that used only one couch on the stage, with film as the "set" for all the actors in the couch, which with lights became different things. The visualness of that production was almost better than the story itself. I would like to find DofD again, and watch it. BLACK SUNDAY (got a different title for a while because of Hollywood). Mario Bava's very moody film with Barbara Steele, is still a very strong thing to see. Of the more modern stuff, at least one of Ann Rice's books has made it to the screen and its adaptation was fine, despite the star cast, but none of her novels, come close to the incredible sense that many of her erotic stories create, which is vastly superior to any of her known works. I have not, seen a whole lot of these things for the past 15 years or so ... none of it shows up and finding it on video was heck, and nowadays, you can't even buy a used CD on Amazon for many of these films, and some of them are great. Edited by moshkito - August 02 2018 at 23:28 |
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I love the original Nosferatu, but I have to give it to Universal's 1931 Dracula, which has the single best line of any vampire movie:
Dracula pours Renfield a glass, and Renfield asks, "Aren't you drinking?" Dracula (the wonderful Bela Lugosi) pauses, then replies, "I never drink...wine."
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"Listen to them ... children of the night ... what music they make!" And not as much progressive music has stood out since, either! |
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I'm not really into the horror film genre, however, being a Stephen King fan, I'll add Salem's Lot to the list. I just started reading his son Joe Hill's book NOS4A2, which I suppose means that I am going to find out that the bad guy is a vampire.
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Logan
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I'm also a Stephen King fan (read the book when I was a teenager, but I haven't seen the movie). It's directed by Tobe Hooper, who is a big name in horror. I don't tweet, but I do visit Stephen King's twitter account as I find him interesting. That book looks like it could be interesting. Incidentally, if I were to choose just one Stephen King novel, I might go with his collabaration with Peter Straub (another horror writer I would read), The Talisman, and I love The Dark Tower series. Pet Semetary was my first. And I love the Bachman Books. Edited by Logan - August 03 2018 at 12:24 |
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From that list two good modern takes are Only Lovers Left Alive and From Dusk to Dawn...both are very entertaining.
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Dracula. And Carl Theodor Dreyer's Vampyr outside the list
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God, someone mentioned Cronos here. Of course he is Logan, yep. What an awesome movie.
Daybreakers is another "out of the ordinary" vampire movie methinks. I enjoyed it a lot. |
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Out of the list; The House That Dripped Blood and The Vampire Lovers are "sexy" vampire movies from the early 70s.
The Lost Boys is my most watched movie. So one of my votes goes to it. Edited by Shadowyzard - July 12 2020 at 20:05 |
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Hi, The Polanski film, has its very funny moments, but the best one, is the trick shot ... something that Polanski has always been good about ... the guy reaches the ball room all the way to the middle and then looks around ... and all vampires are looking at him. Of course, the shot shows the mirrors with nothing on them! Few film makers know how to make you "see" things, like no one else can, but there are some issues with this ... some of it is really uncomfortable to catch and it is one of the reasons why so much is a problem in a lot of Polanski films. To see these "shots" properly, without having to watch the films, do yourself a favor ... watch VISIONS OF LIGHT about cinematographers and them talking about the directors and what they did. Polanski is shown twice, and the second time is a head turner and then some! You did it, too ... admit it, you've fallen for the 20th century film curse! Horror film, has (quite often) been in the fore front of a lot of the visual stuff in these films, because the conventional ways were not good enough ... and for this, the Italian films, with small budgets that fit in the pal of your hand, took the cake ... they were doing hand held stuff, because they could not afford a set or an expensive piece of equipment, and in the process made some of their films better. I like the Hammer films with Cushing/Lee, but for my tastes they were too slick and well defined film wise to make a better film, and rely on their story telling to make a good film. Visually they were fine but not in really anywhere near where the great cinematographers were and came from ... my guess is that Hammer could not afford those folks anyway!
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I guess the Polanski movie you're talking about is not one of the ones that I mentioned.
Well, I've watched many types of movies. One of my M.A. education teachers was a drama and Italian Neorealism specialist. Thanks to him and our curriculum, we had the chance of watching some prominent movies belonging to the western culture, from different eras. I can say that every decade has impressive movies. Yet, in the 21st century, there's not a direct "flow" in lots of things. Perhaps it's about entering the 21st century and related to the synchronicity, in a mysterious way. At least it is shadowy phenomena for me. We are on a threshold, or perhaps the flow is too damn powerful that I was drowned, haha. Or perhaps it is the peak point of postmodernism, so no dominant and linear current will have an overflowing character. Back to topic, I think 70s' horror is the best, at least for me. Edited by Shadowyzard - July 13 2020 at 16:53 |
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Hi, The Fearless Vampire Killers ... 1967 ... Jack MacGowran, Roman Polanski, Alfie Bass, Jessie Robins, Sharon Tate, Ferdy Mayne, David Hemmings (with fake name) Director of Cinematography is Douglas Slocombe ... The Music Lovers, The Lion in Winter, The Great Gatsby, Rollerball, Julia, Nilinsky, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Lady Jane ... not exactly someone that would not know his way around the camera, which I'm sure he had fun talking with to Roman about to make the film slick'er and funnier. However, Roman is well known as a director for creating shots that are scary and difficult and incredible and at times insane. In TESS, the camera is the rapist (so to speak), in ROSEMARY'S BABY at least one shot is the kind that shows you how curious everyone of us is, and can be taken for a ride ... on a film, in The Fearless Vampire Killers, the shot from the middle of the ballroom is INCREDIBLY CLASSIC and insane at the same time ... it's beautifully done!
Part of the problem is the commercialism that everything is tied to and how something like Variety shows "numbers" to make you believe that this film or that film are good, and the one that did not bring in any money is a lousy film. No one, NO ONE, realizes who owns and pays for Variety ... the film studios, thus only their films get a listing and all the rest is crap! Today, with the virus situation, these numbers "don't exist" ... and no film is going to be perceived as making gazillions, and I think that the "big names" are hoping that film theaters return so they can make another film and collect half a billion ... so, yeah, my take is that this will likely not happen and things will change to the small guy film maker and this will be a boon for smaller films ... and artists!
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Lifeforce is my personal favourite and I also like Salem's Lot too.
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Went with From Dusk to Dawn. I'm much more of a Frankenstein fan then Dracula/Vampires.
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Vampire flicks were never a favorite of mine but I gotta give it to the 1931 original Dracula, such a beautiful film ~ an early influence on Batman, surely - I recently watched Brides of Dracula, a Hammer production form '60 with surprisingly good detail and script... ...and featuring the lovely Yvonne Monlaur Edited by Atavachron - July 13 2020 at 15:02 |
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Horror Of Dracula (1958) got my vote i also like the movie “Untold Story”
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Hi, It's a good movie, and Christopher Lee has always been a very good looking Dracula, although the Hammer version is probably more film educated than it is novel educated. Btw ... I was just thinking about your tag line "Life Is Not As Good As The Book. It sure can SUCK!!!!" ... and how we might rewrite that ... so it fits this board better ... no one reads here much ... some are well read, but the majority don't know what a book is ... so it should say ... "Life is not as good as a SONG. It sure ain't PROGRESSIVE!"
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^ My favourite film with Christopher Lee is the one in my avatar, and he loved that film. The Wicker Man for those that don't know it. What an amazing character Christopher Lee was in so many ways. And with him in The Man With The Golden Gun, I had thought of a little spin-off called "The Man with the Superfluous Mammalian Gland that Is a Nipple". Catchy title, I thought.
Francisco Scaramanga: "A duel between titans... my third nipple against your Walther PPK." James Bond: "What, your three nipples against my six bullets?" Francisco Scaramanga: "I only need the third one, Mr. Bond." The original dialogue: Francisco Scaramanga: "A duel between titans... my golden gun against your Walther PPK." James Bond: "One bullet against my six?" Francisco Scaramanga: "I only need one, Mr. Bond." Bond and big Lee fans will know that Scaramanga as played by the amazing Christopher Lee had three nipples (a superfluous mammalian gland, a supernumerary (third) nipple), as well as a golden gun which took only one bullet. I just watched Bram Stoker's Dracula again last night, and now I feel kind of bad leaving it off the list, still feel Keanu Reeves performance to be as wooden as a stake through the heart. Good call on Carl Theodor Dreyer's Vampyr, Morningrise, which I have seen. Obviously I only have so many spaces and am going to leave some off, but for such a classic that is an odd omission despite only posting films I have seen. Edited by Logan - August 08 2020 at 12:19 |
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That's my vote......New Orleans, the natural place for vampires.
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