Big digital

oliverstoned wrote: The problem with copy computer cd is that it passes through a software which uses some algorythms which ruins the sound! whereas an audiophile burner like the one up (Denon CDR1000, the best in the world) doesn't have any software and really make a direct copy! And i don't even talk about MP3 and others compressed formats, which are the worst thing ever created for sound!

Not true ... what you describe CAN happen, but it can be avoided, like I explained above. You can configure your computer to route the digital information directly to the digital interface to the amplifier ... changing NOT A BIT. Please don't argue about that anymore ... I'm a software developer, I studied computer science at the university, including electronical engineering ... I KNOW.

oliverstoned wrote: A computer ruins the sound, it's generate much electric pollution. It's to the point that when i swith off my computer in the house, i hear it right now on my system (whereas i use separate direct electric lines to the home counter for each device). That will make you laugh probably, but it's due to the electric pollution generated by the computer.

1. your computer is not properly shielded, if it interferes with your HiFi system. BTW: The problem is not limited to computers ... you should also turn of devices like washing machines, microwave ovens ... even dimmed lights cause problems.
2. Even properly shielded computers cause problems on the sound cards ... BUT ONLY IF THE ANALOG OUTPUT IS USED.

oliverstoned wrote: btw, you have some good musical tastes: krautrock, among others. Too bad you listen to a computer. You don't know what you miss: half of the instruments!

Not true again. I don't only listen on the computer ... I'm a musician, and I've listened to music on a variety of systems. CD or vinyl, Class A HiFi amp, professional studio monitor system, band PA, ... I know the difference. I'm not saying that your system doesn't sound better. But it's not like computers sound like crap and any HiFi system sounds divine. MANY computers sound like crap and SOME HiFi systems also sound bad (or at least not as good as the price tag suggests).

oliverstoned wrote: Have a look at my thread "budget hifi system" on page 2. Here's something else than a computer. Computer is good to surf on the net... But not for playing music!

1. I already have a good HiFi System: Harman Kardon HK 620, the matching Harman Kardon CD player, Elac CL 82 cabinets. And I previously owned a small really special amp (Musical Fidelity) for 10 years until it fell apart.
   
   Please don't patronize me.
   
2. The main advantage of using the computer is that I have all my 7,000 songs available at the push of a button. Most of them are currently encoded in mp3, which degrades the sound quality - I KNOW, please don't go there. I'm re-ripping them in WMA Lossless, which is a 1:1 copy of every bit of the CD. 
   
   

 I guess we have reached a point where the arguing starts to get repetitive. Have a look at these web pages:

http://www.epinions.com/content_2815402116

http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_debunking_digitalaudio_myths /

They sum up my point of view rather conclusively.

I really see no point in trying to get the "perfect" sound anyway ... there will always be someone who has a better system. And let's not forget that audio CDs have a limited resolution. SACDs are WAY ahead of anything you could ever get out of a normal CD - provided of course that you have D/A converters which can handle that source.

oliverstoned wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote:  I guess we have reached a point where the arguing starts to get repetitive. Have a look at these web pages: http://www.epinions.com/content_2815402116 http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_debunking_digitalaudio_myths / They sum up my point of view rather conclusively. I know Hifi a little more than you, and i know that there are no SACD and DVD audio good enough for the momentto compete with top cd players. On the paper, it's better, but actually it's less good. For the moment. Classic cd is a 20 years old technology and it begins to be mature. You haven't heard so you don't know. This is a place dedicated to hifi, rememeber.

Let's leave it at that ... I don't want to spoil your precious HiFi thread any more. The others can read both our posts and decide for themselves what to believe. My doubts about the "esoteric" HiFi equipment belong in another thread - which I will create soon.