Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
Dan Bobrowski
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 02 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 5243
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 00:51 |
Well I Guess It Would Be Nice If i could touch your body I know not everybody Has got a body like you
But i've got to chink twice Before i give my heart away And i know all the games you play Because i play them too
Oh but i Need some rime off from that emotion Time to pick my heart up off the floor And when that love comes down Without devotion Well it takes a strong man baby But i'm showing you the door
'Cause i gorra have faith....
Baby I know you're asking me to stay Say please, please, please, don't go away You say i'm giving you the blues Maybe You mean every word you say Can't help but think of yesterday And another who tied me down to loverhoy rules-
Before this river Becomes an ocean Before you throw my heart back on the floor Oh baby i reconsider My foolish notion Well i need someone to hold me But i'll wait for something more
Yes i've got to have faith....
Edited by danbo
|
 |
NetsNJFan
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 12 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3047
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 01:00 |
Enough of this fighting between faithers and atheists Enough  You are both wrong I am God!
|
|
 |
Laurent
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 04 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 513
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 01:11 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Enough of this fighting between faithers and atheists
Enough 
You are both wrong I am God! |
Is your name Jon Anderson, then
|
|
 |
Eetu Pellonpaa
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 17 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 4828
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 03:31 |
stonebeard wrote:
i don't understand the point of this thread.
|
To make squirrel. 
Edited by Eetu Pellonpää
|
 |
cobb
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 10 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1149
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 03:35 |
is that a food? or did you misspell quarrel?
|
 |
James Lee
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 05 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3525
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 05:00 |
I wish the word "nutters" was more common on this side of the pond. It has a nice ring to it.
|
|
 |
Ricochet
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 05:01 |
tangerine62 wrote:
I've noticed that the believers (religious
nutters) are creeping into this prog
forum.......................only one question to ask? Why do you
believe in a being that has never ever been seen? and that is a fact:
no one has ever seen the so called god. |
This is non-sense...This is a matter of believing or not.And I do.End.
|
|
 |
Eetu Pellonpaa
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 17 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 4828
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:23 |
cobb wrote:
is that a food? or did you misspell quarrel? |
Yes! 
|
 |
goose
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 20 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 4097
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 07:13 |
tangerine62 wrote:
I've noticed that the believers (religious nutters) are creeping into this prog forum.......................only one question to ask? Why do you believe in a being that has never ever been seen? and that is a fact: no one has ever seen the so called god. |
Why do you believe in the abscense of a god (assuming you do)? There's no point in using science to try and prove or disprove the existence of a higher being since science is within what the higher being (or lack of) created. It's like trying to break open a box with a crowbar that's already inside the box.
|
 |
goose
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 20 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 4097
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 07:14 |
Tony R:
Does this mean we need more pirates? 
|
 |
Starette
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 14 2005
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 502
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 07:30 |
Good grief- Helloooo fundamentalist-athiest! Could you direct me to the thread which supports your evidence of fundie-christians on this site? Is it really that bad? Does anyone care?? Tangerine- you and Arteum go hand-in-hand in your ignorance.
Edited by Starette
|
50 tonne angel falls to the earth...
|
 |
barbs
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 04 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 562
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 08:26 |
"Unless you assume a God, the question of life's point is meaningless."
(Bertrand Russell - Atheist)...what a peculiar thing to say...
...and Bertrand was no everyday, 'run of the mill' type atheist either.
|
Eternity
|
 |
maani
Special Collaborator
Founding Moderator
Joined: January 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2632
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 09:51 |
Goose said, "There's no point in using science to try and prove or disprove the existence of a higher being since science is within what the higher being (or lack of) created. It's like trying to break open a box with a crowbar that's already inside the box."
Absolutely brilliant!     
I also notice that tangerine - and all the other rabid atheists in the group - have chosen to ignore my post. Could that be because they realize they cannot answer the question? That all they can do is continue to resort to tired old atheist mantras, and simply repeat them over and over?
Ah well. I had hoped for more stimulating discussion and debate, and not just a bunch of mealy fundamentalist atheists...( )
Peace.
|
 |
goose
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 20 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 4097
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:11 |
Much as I'd like to claim credit, I'm pretty sure I stole that off someone else
|
 |
Velvetclown
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 8548
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:23 |
|
 |
Ricochet
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:34 |
God is the Web??
I never pictured God as the Web!
You know,thinking that god is in every object on the Earth or represents anything is a heresy...
|
|
 |
Velvetclown
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 8548
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:50 |
Hearsay !!
|
 |
Ricochet
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:56 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Hearsay !!
|
To quote King Of Loss,"No Escape For You"!
|
|
 |
cobb
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 10 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1149
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 11:21 |
maani wrote:
I also notice that tangerine - and all the other
rabid atheists in the group - have chosen to ignore my post.
Could that be because they realize they cannot answer the
question? That all they can do is continue to resort to
tired old atheist mantras, and simply repeat them over and over? |
No, it is because you frighten them with your calm faith, worldly
knowledge and learning that is easily seen in your writings. They know
they are beyond their depth...
or
It could just be that you have admin group tagged under your name
Edited by cobb
|
 |
The Doctor
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 23 2005
Location: The Tardis
Status: Offline
Points: 8543
|
Posted: August 13 2005 at 11:32 |
Tony R wrote:
OPEN LETTER TO KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD
I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of Intelligent Design should be taught along with the theory of Evolution. I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them. I am concerned, however, that students will only hear one theory of Intelligent Design.
Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.
It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith.
Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease.
I’m sure you now realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory. It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t.
You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.

In conclusion, thank you for taking the time to hear our views and beliefs. I hope I was able to convey the importance of teaching this theory to your students. We will of course be able to train the teachers in this alternate theory. I am eagerly awaiting your response, and hope dearly that no legal action will need to be taken. I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.
Sincerely Yours, Tony R
|
...Very humorous. However, I'm afraid I must disagree with your theory of creation. All intelligent people know that the universe was created by the accidental coming together of chocolate and peanut butter, which caused the coming into existence of the great Reese, who then created the universe in order that there would be life to enjoy the deliciousness of the combination of chocolate and peanut butter. This is known as the Reese Theory of Intelligent Design and there is much scientific evidence to back this up.
Edited by The Doctor
|
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
|
 |
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.