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Posted: October 16 2010 at 12:59

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 13:02

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Whatdo you think on putting ankle bracelets to sex offenders so that it is always known where they are? Do you think what they have done justifiew such horrible anti-privacy and liberty measure? I'm torn here.

No. Even if we had a rational definition of sex offender (which we currently don't), I think that if the state doesn't want to keep you in prison for the rest of your life, they shouldn't be able to ruin the rest of your life anyway. But people are so idiotically emotional that it's impossible to have a rational discussion about any of these issues because people go WHARBLEGARBLE SOFT ON CRIME PEDOPHILES GONNA RAPE YOUR BABIES! And no, I don't think it's appropriate to execute first time offenders either.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 13:10

^ You're clearly not an idiot but clearly are emotional?

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 13:14

I agree with Henry, and I've said such things before. If we're not going to let sex offenders serve their time and then be done with it, then we might as well just kill them. It's what the populists and yankers of heartstrings want anyway.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 13:26

I have read about people being dumped into the sex offender bin that don't belong there. Then they are barred from living within a certain radius of various public institutions. If they are true sexual predators then they should be locked up for life, but it needs to be the law.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 13:32

Let's not forget most sex offenders, the real ones, the ones that instill the real damage to the child's psyche, are relatives.

I tend to think like the recent posters. Specially in the light of the amount of innocent people dumped as sex offenders just because a child was made into accusing him/her or doing something.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 14:14

Understand, I'm not talking about the 20 year old guy who gets busted for pooching his 17 year old girlfriend. I'm talking 'bout the dude who lopped off a 5 year old's penis, as happened out here 20 years ago. I'm talking the guys who rape/murder young girls/boys. Just kill 'em all and no further monitoring will be required. Invasion of privacy would then not even come into question.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 14:19

I absolutely disagree with sex offender registries and things of that nature.

Murderers can go to prison 20 years and get out and never have to register for a thing. Why is it sex offenders have a life sentence that murderers on parole do not? I've never understood that. You mean a child killer could be in our neighborhood unbeknown to us, but a guy who had consensual sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend (or who got drunk one afternoon and peed in the bushes in front of a school) has to be in the spotlight the rest of his life?

Although to be clear, I would advocate the death penalty (or a lifetime of indentured servitude) for convicted child molesters and rapists, so there's that.

Edited by Epignosis - October 16 2010 at 14:20

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 14:29

I dunno. One of my high school teachers went home after a day at school and killed his wife. He did his time. I doubt he was any lingering menace to society once released. Not so with serial sex offenders.

As said, I'd give leeway for those who are branded as such due to rigidness of the law. Let them move on. For the others, we have no use for them.

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Posted: October 16 2010 at 14:42

jammun wrote:

A serial sex offender isn't a serial sex offender until he commits more than one sexual crime.

Your high school teacher wasn't a serial killer because he only killed once.

Forgive me, but I don't see how these are comparable situations.

Of course, in my world, first degree murderers wouldn't be "doing time" and getting out afterward.

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Posted: October 17 2010 at 21:44

Epignosis wrote:

I absolutely disagree with sex offender registries and things of that nature.

Murderers can go to prison 20 years and get out and never have to register for a thing. Why is it sex offenders have a life sentence that murderers on parole do not? I've never understood that. You mean a child killer could be in our neighborhood unbeknown to us, but a guy who had consensual sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend (or who got drunk one afternoon and peed in the bushes in front of a school) has to be in the spotlight the rest of his life?

Although to be clear, I would advocate the death penalty (or a lifetime of indentured servitude) for convicted child molesters and rapists, so there's that.

I agree with Rob. I really have no sympathy for these people at all and think they should all get a merciful bullet in the brain, but if you're going to let them out agin, the registry thing is unfair.

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 11:41

Quoted from somewhere else:

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Interesting.

I've done my share of criticizing racism and related issues here in the US but won't you agree that the closest we really have to a multicultural society is this one in the US?

Edited by The T - October 18 2010 at 11:41

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 11:48

Absolutely. For all the lecturing aimed at the USA by some in the world, I think we pretty successfully integrate people while still allowing free speech as much as possible. Some high profile recent events have inflamed tensions, but for the most part I think we integrate reasonably well.

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 11:50

The T wrote:

Quoted from somewhere else:

Epignosis wrote:

Interesting.

I've done my share of criticizing racism and related issues here in the US but won't you agree that the closest we really have to a multicultural society is this one in the US?

Multiculturalism is not something that should be actively pursued. Despite using the term "culture," the ideal is merely racism shrouded in political correctness. The notion that if a business satisfies racial quotas (hire x% blacks, y% Asians, z%Hispanics, etc.) the business will be superior is ridiculous in every way I can think of. In fact, such a business would be at a disadvantage, because multiple coexisting cultures create a number of incredible obstacles. These can sometimes be worked through, but other times cannot, because you can never please everyone.

One must note the racism inherent in Multiculturalism: That of assuming that the color of your skin determines the content of your culture.

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 12:10

The T wrote:

Quoted from somewhere else:

Epignosis wrote:

Interesting.

I've done my share of criticizing racism and related issues here in the US but won't you agree that the closest we really have to a multicultural society is this one in the US?

Tolerance and acceptance of the multi cultures to the extent that we have here is a strength not a weakness.

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 13:25

But some things do not deserve "tolerance."

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Edited by Epignosis - October 18 2010 at 13:27

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 13:28

Slartibartfast wrote:

The T wrote:

Quoted from somewhere else:

Epignosis wrote:

Interesting.

I've done my share of criticizing racism and related issues here in the US but won't you agree that the closest we really have to a multicultural society is this one in the US?

Tolerance and acceptance of the multi cultures to the extent that we have here is a strength not a weakness.

True, but multiculturalism is just about the opposite of respect and tolerance for all cultures.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 13:33

Epignosis wrote:

But some things do not deserve "tolerance."

Being tolerant of intolerants is, for me, being stupid.

Regarding the example, I'd gladly be tolerant enough as to blast the taliban to hell allowing them to carry their muslim flags in their travel...

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 13:50

Epignosis wrote:

But some things do not deserve "tolerance."

I'm with you on that. Mutilations, stonings, etc. do not deserve tolerance. I support tolerance up to the point that it involves harming others like that.

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 18 2010 at 13:52

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Posted: October 18 2010 at 13:57

Slartibartfast wrote:

I'm with you on that. Mutilations, stonings, etc. do not deserve tolerance. I support tolerance up to the point that it involves harming others like that.

Which of course brings us right back around to our discussion about parents refusing medical care on behalf of their children. Wacko

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