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1967/ 1976 
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Joined: May 21 2009 Location: Lake of Love Status: Offline Points: 423 |
 Posted: July 07 2009 at 17:36 |
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RPI fans... If you search the origins of RPI... Don't miss this budget compilation:
 Boxset/Compilation, 20083.00 | 1 ratings Le Canzoni Dei Figli Dei Fiori: L'Ora Dell'Anmore
Various Artists (Concept albums & Themed compilations)  Various Genres
Review by 1967/ 1976 — First review of this album —
 For who search the origin of RPI or Italian Psychedelic Rock this is a good budget compilation.
In first I see this compilation and immediately I bought this compilation because contain only Italian version of famous USA, French or English songs. Certainly some songs are not Prog but all these songs are good for who search the origin of RPI. In first I note that some songs are performed by Dik Dik, I GiGanti and I Califfi. And the Italian version of 'Scarborough Fair' (by Simon & Garfunkel) re-titled 'La Fiera Del Perdono' is one of the more Prog songs by an Italian band because in this version have a pure Psychedelic arrangements. Two songs are in origin by Procol Harum: 'L'Ora Dell'Amore' ('Homburg') (in the version by I Camaleonti) and 'Senza Luce' ('A Wither Shade Of Pale') performed by Dik Dik. these two versions are strange because equal to the original versions but sungs in Italian. 'Tutta Mia La Città' is thje Italian version of 'Blackberry Way' by The Move, in this case in the version of The Group and not in the better version of Equipe 84 (that in 70's produces some RPI albums). Good is also 'Se Io Fossi Un Falegname' by Dik Dik (Italian version of 'If I Were A Carpenter') and Sognando La California (by Dik Dik), Italian version of 'California Dreamin''). Sure this compilation deserves a great attention if you search the origin of RPI, also because contain songs by Dik Dik, I Califfi and I GiGanti (bands listed on PA) and also because contains 2 songs by I Camaleonti, a good Proto RPI/ POP band. |
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micky
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 17:54 |
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cool.. btw way. A test of your prog intellect here.     
Essential: a masterpiece of Studio Album, released in 1972 Is was in no way inspired by King Crimson.. that incarnation of the group didn't even exist. It is a unique ..and powerful album, by one of the more underrated groups in all prog. Ask me about their influence ON Genesis. Edited by micky - July 07 2009 at 17:55 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 18:26 |
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Tell us, I'd certainly like to hear your opinions on this subject.
 Indeed, some italian bands of the period were not influenced from english bands.... I'm thinking to Osanna, Semiramis, Balletto Di Bronzo... they were almost completely original. People seem to forgot this fact.
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micky
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 18:49 |
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cool... I do love love picture association
1971. Touring together in Italy Genesis  Osanna  and HIGH energy after tour... and a meeting with management that said they were putting people to sleep with the sitting on and being clothed like bums on stage. A new Genesis comes along  |
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Todd
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 18:54 |
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Forza Italia, Mike! That's excellent. |
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 18:56 |
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Right... I thought about that some days ago, thinking I was the only one....
However, now that I think of it, I've also read about this "scenical connection" between Osanna and Genesis... can't remember exactly the book but I'm pretty sure it was "Rock Progressivo Italiano".
BTW, the last picture does not work
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micky
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 19:06 |
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the last pic is the same as Ivan's sig... who is to say where the truth really lies. Yet the changes and timing are striking.
Let me put it this way...when it comes to art and prog. The Italians. Greg Walker..from his vendor table said it best. The Italians did it best... not just from a musical standpoint.. but from the visual. The artistic side.. which in the 70's... WAS VERY MUCH an important part of prog. Not like today where prog is genrified (© Micky 2008). Simply prog and only prog...because it marches to the same musical beat as 100's of bands before with little progressive about it. |
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micky
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 19:08 |
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the scream you might have heard was Raff in the background.  |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 21:52 |
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I think around '71/72 Osanna, VdGG, and Genesis had a three way impact on each other...it IS very possible from looking at the dates that Gabriel's later costumes (I believe he was doing the Musical Box thing already...?) were influenced by Osanna. And fwiw, I do hear a somewhat understated Crimson influence on Palepoli, but then again, who WASN'T listeneing to "In the Court" at that time...it's mostly about the atmosphere and the presence of mellotron, flute, sax and the interplay.
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lazland
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:27 |
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Thanks Luca - I am going through the MySpace tracks now. This is an incredible collection of songs. Eclectic, yet melodious, and nothing less than fascinating. I can see why they are a favourite of yours, and I would be interested to learn as to why they were a one shot band?  Very confusing, because this album not only hints at, but promises, great things to follow. Very difficult to categorise, but you are right about the intensity - it is wonderful. |
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lazland
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:48 |
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Okay - here they are, the two latest baby additions to the family. Meet.........................Joy & Allie. It won't be long before I'll have them into prog   |
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lazland
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:56 |
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I suppose that the golden rule is that you should always check the dates and facts before you start citing influences, so Micky, my humble apologies and thanks, because, of course, you are absolutely right. The phase of Crimson I was referring to hadn't even started in 1972. So perhaps I should state that CRIMSON were influenced  .I haven't, though, changed my opinion about the music, which is excellent. I am extremely grateful to all who have helped me on the start of my journey to appreciate this excellent music. It is only the start, and I intend boring you all silly with my appreciation for some long time to come. You never know, I might even have to change my opinion about the English being the greatest prog influence in the world - all of us Welsh residents would certainly cheer THAT |
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 16:46 |
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Good Ossana photo
But i like more that with he red X
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 17:40 |
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I'm very glad you liked it.
This roman group, formed in 1970, disbanded in 1973 after only one album because the realationships between the musicians became too tense during the sessions of the second album.
This is partly due to the very young age of the musicians: you have to think that at the time of recording their only album, all the members of the band were between 16 and 18 years old.  This was very common in Italy in those days, incredibly young musicians performing great and complex music.
Perhaps the end of the band was also caused by the typical "financial crisis" which determined the end of many italian groups of that time.... because the "young" audience appreciated these albums, and the big free concerts attracted enormous audiences, but the recording companies did not believe much in these prog groups, so the promotion was bad and the sales were not very good.
They did not believe much in prog groups (except in the big names like PFM and Banco) because the wider audience (not only young people) still listened to traditional italian pop music...
Young people liked prog, but for the record companies the sales were not enough to justify the investment in those bands... many italian bands ended their career for this reason (Semiramis, Museo Rosenbach, Quella Vecchia Locanda...)
SEMIRAMIS
Facts about this group:
"Dedicato A Frazz", the title of their album, comes from the acronym of the surnames of the musicans
(F)aenza, (R)eddavide, (A)rtegiani, (Z)arrillo, (Z)arrillo)
It's a concept album, about the story of a clown, who sees life with ingenuity: his only joy comes from appearance and satisfaction for the beauty of things. Then, when he discovers the sad truth of existence, he commits suicide hanging himself.
The guitarist and singer, Michele Zarrillo, after the end of the group, became a succesful pop singer.
Edited by Luca Pacchiarini - July 08 2009 at 17:41 |
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 18:02 |
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Since you've just started your exploration of this scene, this great post is an essential read:
Italian Prog For Beginners
I find it very useful and pleasant to read:
because it's not possible to understand italian prog without knowing the social and historical background of that time...
Edited by Luca Pacchiarini - July 08 2009 at 18:03 |
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1967/ 1976
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 18:16 |
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In the 70's Prog in Italy is more than a musical genre...: is a movement!
And Prog in Italy in 70's was not played only by Prog artists!
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NotAProghead
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 18:16 |
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"If you're strong you'll survive". I guess it was cruel, but there was a kind of justice. Bands who had enough ideas for "the long run" survived, others were not so strong and disappeared. But they left us real treasures. Thanks them a lot .Edited by NotAProghead - July 08 2009 at 18:20 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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American Khatru
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Posted: July 09 2009 at 05:13 |
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And to reciprocate... the man... the myth... my Lou:  |
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 Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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lazland
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Posted: July 09 2009 at 13:27 |
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Gates of Delerium would also be quite interesting, I'd bet Lou is gorgeous - quite clearly the boss of the house |
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lazland
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Posted: July 09 2009 at 13:49 |
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Another first tonight - this one.
 Great organ, lovely guitar pieces, but mostly I really loved the almost vulnerable and sensitive vocals. |
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