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Easy Money
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:10 |
Watch the personal insults folks, need to hide a few posts here.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:18 |
I knew that whole ù thing would bite the dust. Boy, when it comes to harsh discourse, you gotta catch it while it's fresh. 
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 18 2010 at 10:23
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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thellama73
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Location: United States
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:25 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I knew that whole ù thing would bite the dust.
Boy, when it comes to harsh discourse, you gotta catch it while it's fresh. 
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No kidding.  I'm glad I've been in on the action here.
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timothy leary
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Joined: December 29 2005
Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:43 |
We should all get used to burqas because with the environmental decay on it`s way we will all be dressed in white hasmat suits, also I was wondering would I be able to use burqa in scrabble......great word for getting rid of that troublesome "q"
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:51 |
timothy leary wrote:
We should all get used to burqas because with the environmental decay on it`s way we will all be dressed in white hasmat suits, also I was wondering would I be able to use burqa in scrabble......great word for getting rid of that troublesome "q"
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How about aqua and quiet? But you're right, when we enter the age of hazmat, we're going to feel silly for raising such a fuss about burqas...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:56 |
thellama73 wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I knew that whole ù thing would bite the dust.
Boy, when it comes to harsh discourse, you gotta catch it while it's fresh. 
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No kidding. I'm glad I've been in on the action here.
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Like I said (In my hidden post) it made me draw my breath for a second that one
How do you do that U thingy anyway?
^ I thought they'd changed the rules of scrabble to include just about any old word?
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Help me I'm falling!
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Zargus
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Location: Sweden
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Points: 3491
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 10:57 |
Ban religion altoghter whuld be the best, but this is a good first step.
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timothy leary
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 11:00 |
scrabble.......the beacon of liberalism in a world gone awry
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The T
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 12:04 |
Sean Trane wrote:
You don't understand much about anything. It's not my theory but most psychanalists.
ever heard of Freud, Nietzsche and the rest of the pack??? When I say that most comportamental traits are coming from childhood memories (I won't even say traumas, because this is not necessarily negative of course), I doubt most of them would tell me this is rubbish.... they came up with it.....
I'm not that sensitive, but when obvious issues and answers (like equal rights) are twisted to fit personal needs (the skidding into submission) just avoid losing the argument, then it stops being an honest debate.
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is not rubbish but it has been subject to serious criticism from other psychological currents. Behqviorists or cognitive theorists or even modern psychodinamic theorists would hardly assume everything that Freud said as blind truth. Freud's conclusions lacked empirical evidence. I tend to agree with him in many issues but his word is not the law in psychology. That he "came up with it" doesn't make these statements any less false or true. Of course environment and upbringing mold character, but it's been a LONG time since sexual preferences not aligned to those deemed "normal" were viewed as disorders. And submissive persnolaties are not necessarily an outcome of twisted childhood.
Also, Nietzche was not one "of the pack". He was a philoshopher who pretended to knoe the human mind and soul. For all his greqt analysis, he was also a sexually frustrated anomally whose word is even further from the truth than others.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 15:20 |
Sean Trane wrote:
You don't understand much about anything. It's not my theory but most psychanalists. ever heard of Freud, Nietzsche and the rest of the pack??? When I say that most comportamental traits are coming from childhood memories (I won't even say traumas, because this is not necessarily negative of course), I doubt most of them would tell me this is rubbish.... they came up with it..... I'm not that sensitive, but when obvious issues and answers (like equal rights) are twisted to fit personal needs (the skidding into submission) just avoid losing the argument, then it stops being an honest debate.
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is not rubbish but it has been subject to serious criticism from other psychological currents. Behaviorists or cognitive theorists or even modern psychodinamic theorists would hardly assume everything that Freud said as blind truth. Freud's conclusions lacked empirical evidence. I tend to agree with him in many issues but his word is not the law in psychology. That he "came up with it" doesn't make these statements any less false or true. Of course environment and upbringing mould character, but it's been a LONG time since sexual preferences not aligned to those deemed "normal" were viewed as disorders. And submissive persnolaties are not necessarily an outcome of twisted childhood.[/QUOTE]
Neither would I, just like Darwin was not 100% correct, but they had the general idea right and helped arrive to today's science..... but if I brought him up, it's because someone pretended it was MY theory and calling it rubbish.
Yes, generally extremists tend to question, criticise and deform (and some times even adapt to fit their needs >> the creationism issue) general and accepted wisdom in order to keep "believing", even if they must alter their doctrine and dogma that they must respect in the strictest sense
to my knowledge I haven't even approached homosexuality is my posts, outside stating jokingly I was a lesbian too. This kind of remark is the written proof I don't consider sexual preferences as a problem or even an issue. My use of pink would even confirm this.
Not necessarily indeed, but in most cases..... BTW, by twisted, I meant uncontrollable events, painful, torn, sickness-stricken, absence-stricken etc... but certainly deviant..... just thought I's specify.
The T wrote:
Also, Nietzche was not one "of the pack". He was a philoshopher who pretended to knoe the human mind and soul. For all his greqt analysis, he was also a sexually frustrated anomally whose word is even further from the truth than others. |
You're right, of course  , but this was my third or fourth post about the subject in this thread, this morning, and I was running late for a family gathering, so I wrote this up quickly. Once I was in the car, I realized I was cutting corners....
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BTW Admins, if my post answering Epignosis is under scrutiny (as I saw last page), please consider the post it was answering to.... I was the one being called names.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 00:51 |
A Very Intelligent Man wrote:
You sir, are a dick.
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JJLehto
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Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 00:56 |
CinemaZebra wrote:
A Very Intelligent Man wrote:
You sir, are a dick.
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Bump?
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Atavachron
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Location: Pearland
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 01:15 |
okay I think the SeanTrane-bashing has run its course, I don't like to see someone ganged up on no matter what they've said, so how about giving it a rest .. and "you sir are a dick" is not exactly a brilliant response
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The T
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 01:25 |
Let's remember dick is short for Richard... Maybe he's saying "sir your full name is Sean Richard Trane?"
So bad...
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npjnpj
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Location: Germany
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Points: 2720
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 03:09 |
But don't you realise that in spite of being camouflaged by politics, ethics, philosophies, great (and not so great) authors, at the bottom of it all everyone is being taken for one big ride?
It is my firm belief that after the fall of the Eastern Block some new enemy had to be created by any means possible, and the Muslims just got handed the ticket. Could have been anyone else: The southern half of the globe, the Eskimos, or the Austarlians. In this case the Muslims were just the unlucky ones.
Hence this burqa ban. Just try and see through the smokescreen. Religions are ideal targets, IT'S ALL PROPAGANDA! THE WAR MASCHINE MUST GO ON!
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BaldFriede
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Location: Germany
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 03:20 |
npjnpj wrote:
But don't you realise that in spite of being camouflaged by politics, ethics, philosophies, great (and not so great) authors, at the bottom of it all everyone is being taken for one big ride?
It is my firm belief that after the fall of the Eastern Block some new enemy had to be created by any means possible, and the Muslims just got handed the ticket. Could have been anyone else: The southern half of the globe, the Eskimos, or the Austarlians. In this case the Muslims were just the unlucky ones.
Hence this burqa ban. Just try and see through the smokescreen. Religions are ideal targets, IT'S ALL PROPAGANDA! THE WAR MASCHINE MUST GO ON!
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That's what Jean and I already pointed out. This is not about the burqa at all. It is playing on islamophobia. Sarcozy is a populist. His whole record shows he has never been one for civil liberties, and now he suddenly wants to liberate the poor Islamic women? Nonsense. He is just distracting from the other problems he has.
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru
Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 05:04 |
BaldFriede wrote:
This is not about the burqa at all. It is playing on islamophobia. Sarcozy is a populist. His whole record shows he has never been one for civil liberties, and now he suddenly wants to liberate the poor Islamic women? Nonsense. He is just distracting from the other problems he has. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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timothy leary
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Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 08:19 |
the very intelligent man discussed his family dynamics on the internet, not so intelligent
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Sean Trane
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Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Online
Points: 20414
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 08:50 |
JJLehto wrote:
CinemaZebra wrote:
You sir, are a dick. |
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not really feeling aimed , but I thought that you'd at least aware of the following wisdom (It('s christian too):
It takes one to know one, right?? 
Look up the dictionary at that very and you'll find your photo in terms of definition
Slartibartfast wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Leadership is not dominance
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Sooo as the leader of the US, you as US citizen let Dubya Bush dominate you.
You sound like a masochist.to me 
[edited for language]
Edited by Jim Garten - July 19 2010 at 10:16
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Jim Garten
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Status: Offline
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 10:17 |
Please keep this on subject, avoid personal attacks etc etc - shouldn't have to say this to Collaborators
Thank you.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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