The American Politics Thread - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Author

Message

Topic Search

Topic Options

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 11:03

SteveG wrote:

If Trump could travel back in time to a German Nazi rally, I'm sure he would say that they were "very fine people". "They're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Hitler had a slogan saying "Make Germany Great Again"

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - October 15 2019 at 11:04

SteveG

Forum Senior Member

Joined: April 11 2014
Location: Kyiv In Spirit
Status: Offline
Points: 20617

Posted: October 15 2019 at 11:05

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

SteveG wrote:

If Trump could travel back in time to a German Nazi rally, I'm sure he would say that they were "very fine people". "They're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Hitler had a slogan saying "Make Germany Great Again"

He did. Where do you think Trump got the idea from?

This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State.

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 12:36

SteveG wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

SteveG wrote:

If Trump could travel back in time to a German Nazi rally, I'm sure he would say that they were "very fine people". "They're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Hitler had a slogan saying "Make Germany Great Again"

He did. Where do you think Trump got the idea from?

Even if Hitler did say "Make Germany Great Again" I wouldn't have known because he was speaking in German.

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 65626

Posted: October 15 2019 at 12:42

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

SteveG wrote:

If Trump could travel back in time to a German Nazi rally, I'm sure he would say that they were "very fine people". "They're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Hitler had a slogan saying "Make Germany Great Again"

No, Steve is right. In fact it's not even a stretch or an insult: Trump would without doubt say 'They're very fine people, they're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Trump has no ethics nor is he very bright, and you must understand and accept this if you're going to support him or you risk identifying with the very ignorance that allowed the National Socialist movement to rise in Germany.

Trump may not be a fascist, but he's a carrier.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

Logan

Forum & Site Admin Group

Site Admin

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 37272

Posted: October 15 2019 at 12:51

^^ "machen Deutschland wieder groß"

That's the beauty of the internet, it's easy to research. While he did use the expression "make Germany great again" various times, which is hardly surprising under the circumstances, I've read that it wasn't a campaign slogan. That said, the idea of making Germany great again, and becoming glorious, was important to Nazi's.

From a speech of his: "Nationalism and Socialism has to be redefined and they had to be blended into one strong new idea to carry new strength which would make Germany great again" (Adolf Hitler, 1940).

Which is eerily similar to "Grab them by the pussy and make America great again!"

See: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/make-germany-great-again/
https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/yes-adolf-hitler-really-said-he-would-make-germany-gre-1789261081

Edited by Logan - October 15 2019 at 12:57

omphaloskepsis View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 19 2011
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 6808

Posted: October 15 2019 at 12:58

Atavachron wrote:

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

SteveG wrote:

If Trump could travel back in time to a German Nazi rally, I'm sure he would say that they were "very fine people". "They're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that Hitler had a slogan saying "Make Germany Great Again"

No, Steve is right. In fact it's not even a stretch or an insult: Trump would without doubt say 'They're very fine people, they're just patriotic nationalists who love their country".

Trump may not be a fascist, but he's a carrier.

As per usual, you guys have been deceived again. Are you delusional? Or just easily fooled/ Trump never said white supremist and the KKK were fine people. Trump condemned white supremist at 1:25 in the video below. Trump was defending the folks who wanted to preserve the statue and the park's name. You've seen the edited version of what Trump said. Here is the entire video. Do you dare watch an unedited version of the truth? Or do you choose to believe the fake news lie?

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 15 2019 at 12:59

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 65626

Posted: October 15 2019 at 13:04

^ Who said anything about white supremacists and the KKK ? The reference was to the nationalist movement in Germany in the '30s, of which Trump would have quietly admired and publicly defended. I think you just can't handle that alarming realization.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

omphaloskepsis View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 19 2011
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 6808

Posted: October 15 2019 at 13:42

Atavachron wrote:

Oh, you can read minds? How long have you been able to read President Trump's inner thoughts? Can you read everyone's thoughts? I can't read minds, so can you show me evidence of Trump saying positive things about Nazi Germany? Just one and I will go away.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 15 2019 at 13:43

omphaloskepsis View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 19 2011
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 6808

Posted: October 15 2019 at 13:49

Fake news again. ABC broadcasts Fake Turkey-Kurd footage. The war footage was filmed at a Kentucky military show.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 15 2019 at 13:50

Easy Money View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
Status: Offline
Points: 10680

Posted: October 15 2019 at 13:56

Nazis love trump, if not the whole thing, at least try the first few seconds of this video:

Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446

omphaloskepsis View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 19 2011
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 6808

Posted: October 15 2019 at 13:57

Zucker head of CNN tells staff that every broadcast should push the Trump Impeachment. CNN doesn't report the news...They make the news up.

omphaloskepsis View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: October 19 2011
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 6808

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:01

New York Times publishes fake Trump news story. Fake news all day, every day.

I could pick a different anti-Trump, weekly, fake news story from ABC, NBC (easy), CNN, Washington Post, New York Times. Every week. Heck, I could do a weekly top ten anti-Trump, fake news stories.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 15 2019 at 14:07

Atavachron View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Online
Points: 65626

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:07

omphaloskepsis wrote:

Atavachron wrote:

You're completely missing the point and using an absurd "mind reading" position the way someone does when they have nothing else to bring to the table. Besides, who said one has to be a mind-reader to perceive and interpret what a public figure's position could be on an issue.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

Easy Money View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
Status: Offline
Points: 10680

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:09

At the 35 second mark, the KKK's David Duke expresses his devotion to trump.

Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:15

omphaloskepsis wrote:

Liberals like to watch CNN, so I'm sure they'd much rather choose to believe the Fake News lie, in just the same way as they believed the Fake News lie that the audience for Obama's inauguration was bigger than it was for President Trump's inauguration.

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:19

Easy Money wrote:

At the 35 second mark, the KKK's David Duke expresses his devotion to trump.

That means nothing. David Duke is about as irrelevant to President Trump as The Dukes of Hazzard.

Easy Money View Drop Down

Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
Status: Offline
Points: 10680

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:22

^ More importantly, why does a top figure in the KKK feel so strongly about hollywood donald?

Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446

Argo2112

Forum Senior Member

Joined: June 20 2017
Location: New Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 4462

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:25

^ ^I kind of hate getting in to it on the whole Trump thing but I'm always fascinated with the whole "Fake News" concept. If you believe Trump fake news consists of what people commonly refer to here in the US as the mainstream media. This would include NBC, CBS, ABC,CNN , NPR, AP, The New your Times, The Washington Post & many other reputably news outlets many of which have been around for over 50 years. But we are suppose to dismiss all of these news sources and get our information from Fox News, Breitbart & a handful of talk radio crackpots because, ya know " They tell the truth" Never ceases to amaze me.

Edited by Argo2112 - October 15 2019 at 14:28

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:26

Easy Money wrote:

^ More importantly, why does a top figure in the KKK feel so strongly about hollywood donald?

Who would you expect David Duke to support!? He's hardly going to be a liberal Hillary supporter is he!?

Psychedelic Paul View Drop Down

Forum Senior Member

Joined: September 16 2019
Location: Nottingham, U.K
Status: Offline
Points: 43499

Posted: October 15 2019 at 14:31

Argo2112 wrote:

^ ^I kind of hate getting in to it on the whole Trump but I'm always fascinated with the whole "Fake News" concept. If you believe Trump fake news consists of what people commonly refer to here in the US as the mainstream media. This would include NBC, CBS, ABC,CNN , NPR, AP, The New your Times, The Washington Post & many other reputably news outlets many of which have been around for over 50 years. But we are suppose to dismiss all of these news sources and get our information from Fox News, Breitbart & a handful of talk radio crackpots because, ya know " They tell the truth" Never ceases to amaze me.

You won't be surprised to hear I only watch Fox News - the Real News Network. I can't even trust the left-wing biased BBC any more since President Trump got elected. That's why I stopped wasting my money on the BBC TV license fee.