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memowakeman
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 21:32 | |
Hey man i share love for Clic, actually i like it a bit more than Sulle Corde... it is fabulous!
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LinusW
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Posted: March 24 2009 at 08:52 | |
Thanks man. Glad you liked it |
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LinusW
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Posted: March 24 2009 at 08:55 | |
I still think I like Sulle Corde a bit more, but Clic sure is a haunting album. Intoxicating and infectious, with smooth Battiato electro weirdness and personality. Definitely a hit |
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 25 2009 at 05:01 | |
Duello Madre
Duello Madre Jazz Rock/Fusion
Review by
sinkadotentree
DUELLO MADRE may have released only one album(1973) but they were seasoned musicians at this point
in their careers, with the guitarist and bass player coming from OSAGE TRIBE and the drummer from
CIRCUS 2000.There is also a sax/flute player(who along with the guitarist wrote all the songs) and some
guest keyboards on this album.I should mention that after this band broke up the bass player would go on
to play with IL VOLO while the drummer would play with NOVA.I have to say upfront that i'm addicted to
this album and i have to thank Todd for the recommendation.There's something understated about this
record yet at the same time it brings me so much excitement.A contridiction in terms i know but this is
truly a delicate feast for the ears,a recording that needs to be listened to closely to be fully
appreciated.This really grew on me.
"Aquile Blu" is spacey,almost haunting to open before reserved vocals arrive after a minute as the sound
changes.Nice bass here too.Great sound 2 minutes in as the tempo picks up.It settles again as bass
throbs.Love Finnforest's line about the bass playing here: "...he likes to lay down a fat lead riff and just
drive it into the sunset". So true. Sax comes in after 3 1/2 minutes and leads the way.Just incredible
playing here by the whole band.Vocals are back 6 1/2 minutes to end it. "Momento" continues with the
same vibe as the first track as the bass throbs while drums,sax and keys impress.A change before 2
minutes as it calms right down and returns with gentle acoustic guitar.Flute joins in and then it kicks back
into gear after 4 minutes.Nice guitar! "Otto" opens with drums while bass and sax follow.Intricate sounds
with some great interplay here.Guitar 3 minutes in starts to make some noise as the sax retreats.The sax
is back! I really like the drumming 4 1/2 minutes in and the guitar that follows. Excellent bass 6 minutes
in. "Madre" is the longest track at 10 1/2 minutes.A little flair to open before it settles with smooth sax and
keys.A calm 3 minutes in as the sound changes(great section) then it kicks back in after 4 1/2
minutes.Love the guitar 7 1/2 minutes in and then the sax takes the lead but it's brief as the guitar lights it
up.More sax as the battle it out.It turns pastoral 9 minutes in to the end. "Duello" is my favourite although
each track is a highlight for me.I really like how dark the intro is here as it builds.It gets even darker after
3 1/2 minutes.Amazing sound! Guitar and bass take over before 6 minutes.Nice. Drums and sax end it.
Another gem for my treasure box(collection).
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: March 25 2009 at 05:07 | |
I do not have DUELLO MADRE... Sure a great album...!!!
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: March 26 2009 at 21:14 | |
John's on an Italian tear...cool!!
Samadhi Samadhi Jazz Rock/Fusion
Review by
sinkadotentree
As Finnforst and Tszirmay have indicated already in their reviews this is one of those albums that
really makes you feel good.The vocalist Luciano Regoli has one of those voices that simply makes me
smile, he sounds so good.Luciano was in a band with Claudio Simonetti years before this,when that
band broke up Claudio went on to form GOBLIN while Luciano went on to form RACCAMNDATA
RICEVUTA RITORNO.After one album RRR broke up and Luciano and RRR's guitarist Nanni Civitenga
went on to form this band SAMADHI.This had been described as sort of a super group as the others in
the band also came from other known bands from that time.The majority of these tracks were
composed by the keyboardist and bass player.Jazz-Rock was starting to spread throughout Italy at this
time and so the band steered itself in that direction on this their only release.
"Uomo Stanco" is a top three track for me on this album.Strummed guitar to open as organ joins in.A
full sound comes in with vocals.I was instantly drawn in by those incredible vocals,how can you not
smile? Nice bass lines throughout.Guitar 2 minutes in is pleasant.Excellent organ to end it. "Un Milione
D'Anni Fa" has a bit of a classical vibe because of the strings and bassoon.The vocals are great.A fair
amount of piano too.Pretty cool track. "L'Angelo" opens with acoustic guitar then electric guitar,piano
and drums take over.Vocals and bass follow.Fantastic guitar after 1 1/2 minutes.Vocal melodies and
horns follow. "Passaggio Di Via Arpino" features percussion early as flute comes in.This song becomes
the jazziest tune yet when the piano,light drums,sax and bass take over.Some outstanding guitar
follows.Great section before 5 minutes with flute.I like this instrumental a lot. "Fantasia" is another top
3 song for me.It opens with organ,a full sound follows.Love the vocals before a minute.Some
good organ and flute in this one,piano late. "Silenzio" is mellow to start then strummed guitar and piano
follow.Electric guitar and vocals after a minute.The guitar 4 1/2 minutes to the end is a treat.The
previous two songs bring PFM to mind at times. L'Ultima Spiaggia is the longest song by far and my
favourite.Piano intro as reserved vocals join in.A full sound before 1 1/2 minutes with flute.Check out
the vocals 3 minutes in as he brings some passion in his singing.Some wonderful piano melodies later
then we get deep male vocal melodies joining the piano,drums and bass.This goes on and on and it's so
moving.
I know this could be said about a lot of Italian bands but it's too bad they only put out one album.I'm
just glad i own it.
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: March 27 2009 at 04:06 | |
Samadhi... A great band for a good listen to in a car during a long journey!!!
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 08:26 | |
^ Especially taking into consideration the album length
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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LinusW
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 08:38 | |
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 23:27 | |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: March 28 2009 at 10:53 | |
See this thread:
Help me with the entry in PA of this good Italian band based in Germany! Edited by Mandrakeroot - March 28 2009 at 10:54 |
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 18:02 | |
Good one Raffa!!! Haven't heard this myself, but look forward to someday!! Bravo!
L'era Del Cinghiale Bianco Franco Battiato Rock Progressivo Italiano
Review by
Raff
When this album was released, back in 1979, it came as a surprise to those who knew Franco Battiato
as a wacky, avant-garde artist known for near-unlistenable records - such as its predecessor, the
notorious L'Egitto prima delle sabbie. However, L'era del cinghiale bianco (a title referring to
both Celtic and Hindu mythology, in which the wild boar was a symbol of spiritual renewal) took the
Italian music scene by storm, even if it did not become a massive hit like its followers eventually
did. Neatly packaged in a stylish cover brimming with all kinds of esoteric symbols, it features
music that is at the same time accessible and sophisticated, Battiato's distinctive vocals, redolent
of the Middle East, and his trademark lyrical style, a brilliant mixture of the nonsense and the
cultivated.
< Out of Battiato's 'pop' albums, L'era del cinghiale bianco is definitely the one with the most appeal for prog fans. The presence of two renowned sessionmen like drummer Tullio De Piscopo and guitarist Alberto Radius, both former members of Italian prog bands, anchors the album to the RPI scene, which at the time seemed more or less a thing of the past. As stated by other reviewers, many of the former glories of Italian prog had chosen to go commercial, like Alan Sorrenti or New Trolls, while others, conversely, had gone underground. Battiato - ever the outsider - chose a direction that was fated to make waves on the ultimately conservative Italian music scene, becoming a purveyor of what could be termed 'thinking man's pop music'. He took the song form (firmly rooted in the Italian melodic tradition), and injected it with electronic keyboards, ethnic instruments, liberal use of foreign languages, and lyrics deeply imbued with philosophy and exoticism. On the following albums, the songs would become increasingly more straightforward in musical structure - here, we see Battiato's experiment in 'intelligent pop' at its most intriguing. While you do not need to understand Italian to appreciate Battiato's music, it is undeniable that, if you don't, you are missing out on something - though his voice is fascinating even without having a clue of what he is singing about. I believe not enough has been said about how innovative Battiato's singing style has been for the Italian music scene, where singers are usually expected to have either very pleasant and melodic, or very theatrical voices. In some ways, Battiato's style can be compared to another great innovator's, Lucio Battisti (not yet included in the database at the time of writing) - neither gifted with powerful lungs, but both aware of the effectiveness of using one's voice as an additional instrument, and of the frequent superiority of expressiveness versus mere power. One of the things I have always loved about Battiato's lyrics is their strong visual quality, very evident on the album's title-track (introduced by an awesome, utterly memorable violin riff), which conjures up images of exotic cities like Tunis and Damascus; while Strade dell'Est (whose strong rhythmic beat is vaguely reminiscent of a train) takes us on a journey through Central Asia, though hidden cities, crowded markets, and ancient legends. On the other hand, the mellow, hypnotic Il re del mondo references the theory of René Guénon about the 'spiritual centre' of the world, and its negative effects on free choice. Album closer Stranizza d'amuri, sung by the artist in his native Sicilian dialect, is somewhat older than the other tracks, having been written in 1975 (it is also included in the compilation La convenzione). Luna indiana is a beautiful, mostly instrumental, piano-based track, and the atmospheric Pasqua etiope is basically a prayer sung in Latin. While prog purists may frown upon Battiato's move, open-minded music fans will find a lot to love in this intriguing, sophisticated album. In spite of its superficial 'poppy' feel, L'era del cinghiale bianco has many layers, which will unfold upon repeated listens. Granted, it is not 'conventional' prog by any means, and as such may be found disappointing by those who expect 20-minute epics, or wild time signature shifts. Knowledge of Italian is a bonus (unless one day I decide to translate the lyrics), but in no way essential to enjoy Franco Battiato's mesmerising musical world. Four solid stars from this reviewer. |
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micky
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 18:24 | |
oh is grand Jim... you'll love it..
here have a sample.. my favorite on the album... |
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Matthew T
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 01 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5291 |
Posted: March 30 2009 at 21:48 | |
Thanks Mick, played it 4 times in a row. I have ordered it and will be looking out for that postie. Last play of this track for a while don't want over do it
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Matt
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micky
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 21:51 | |
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew you would love it... that song hits me hard.. right in the chest.. Just like another classic Battiato song
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Matthew T
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 21:58 | |
Thanks
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Matt
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: April 03 2009 at 22:42 | |
Yeah Todd!! Way to get on a new release!!
Capitolo 7 - Tra Le Antiche Mura
Il Castello Di Atlante Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by Todd — First review of this album —
“Suddenly, through the early morning biting fog, I saw a castle. The large portal was open. I left my
heavy burden and I came in gingerly. Once inside the wide court, I felt a sensation of peace and
stillness . . . “
So begins the Prefazione to Il Castello di Atlante’s new album, “Tra le Antiche Mura”—Among the Ancient Walls. There are five beautifully crafted long songs (the shortest 8:20) which are flanked by a Prefazione and an Epilogo, which are nice atmospheric pieces with some spoken narration (in native Italian—the excerpt above is the band’s translation). Il Castello di Atlante has been around since the mid 1970’s, but their recorded output consisted of private affairs until 1992. (Although 1994’s “Passo Dopo Passo” consists of some of their earlier efforts, including some live material from the 1970’s.) If you’re not familiar with the band’s style, they are firmly entrenched in 1970’s RPI, with some modern coloring. But they would sound perfectly at home in the 1970’s. They are a keyboard driven band, with strands of beautiful violin from Massimo di Lauro. Their guitarist, Aldo Bergamini, partakes of the David Gilmour/Nick Barrett school of singing atmospheric soli, as opposed to shredding. The band members are all excellent instrumentalists, if not virtuosi. Like typical RPI bands, they show a great sensibility for melody and song creation. They do not favor complex arrangements or time signatures, although there is enough variability in their compositions to never bore. But most of all, they play with great passion, also typical of RPI. For this, technically their fifth studio album, original bass player Dino Fiore has returned, joining the other four members who have been around for many years, three of them since the very beginning. The title track is immediately striking, with excellent organ and keyboard choir playing against a great rhythm from the bass, drums, and guitar. As with all of the main songs, there are some faster sections juxtaposed with more atmospheric, slower passages, which usually flow together nicely. My favorite song seems to switch depending on which I’m listening to—usually a good sign that the album is a winner. However, two deserve some special mention. “Malebolge” is a 19 minute song that takes its text from Dante’s Inferno. (In fact, a truncated version of the song is found on the most recent Collosus Project compilation, “Dante’s Inferno.” If you don’t have it yet, you really need to get it. Four CDs packed with great music!) The song is haunting, as befits a circle in hell, replete with otherworldly choir sounds and organ. They have created a wonderfully gripping atmosphere and captured the sense perfectly. “L’Uomo Solo” (Lonely Man) is another fascinating study in atmosphere. The piece begins with somewhat hard music, suggesting nicely the anger of a lonely man. At the 2:14 mark, there is a beautiful passage with piano and violin, joined by a rich vocal and then a singing guitar. Tasteful drums and subtle bass enter in a gradual crescendo, as the guitar begins to grow more emphatic. The whole ensemble then flows into a keyboard drenched passage, weaving a perfect musical tapestry depicting a lonely man. Excellent craftsmanship! All in all, although not quite up to the level of the masterpieces of the 1970s, this is nonetheless an essential piece of current RPI. For this reason, and because (like their peers CAP) they need more exposure on this site and elsewhere, I’m awarding five stars. Bravo! Edited by Finnforest - April 05 2009 at 09:43 |
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Todd
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Posted: April 03 2009 at 23:26 | |
Thanks Jim! What a great album!
By the way, I just noticed that I made a mistake--Dante's Inferno has 4 CDs, not 3, and many of them are RPI bands (also including CAP, Notabene, De Rossi e Bordini, Corte Aulica, Greenwall, Armalite, Nuova Era, et al). Well worth checking out!
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 04 2009 at 12:00 | |
Question: Is there a lyric site out there for Italian prog? I don't speak Italian but greatly enjoy the music and would love to find meaning in what I'm listening to even if I must plug Italian lyrics into a translator myself.
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Raff
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Posted: April 04 2009 at 12:07 | |
Don't use online translators... They make a dog's dinner of every text that's put through them. Here's a link to a site that has translations of some of the major RPI albums:
http://www.arlequins.it/translations/translations.asp Not all translations are great, but they are definitely better that anything coming out of those online manglers. |
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