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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:29
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

M., Mike and Patrick: Ahvak

That's your next purchase.

Excellent in all respects.

Oh, I see - you are our arbiter elegantiae of music purchases... Confused LOL

What's it like?


I'm not feeling very wordy today: excellent

LOL

Trust me, you'll love it.  Very original sound for chamber prog. Big%20smile  Kerman plays on drums for it.  Very well composed and better than Far Corner and NeBeLNeST.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:29
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


my recent favorite bands: Univers Zero, Animal Collective, Stereolab, Tangerine Dream, Radio Massacre International, Brian Eno, electronic and ambient stuff in general, Peter Hammill (been trying to get more of his studio albums, have a ways to go), etc.  So it's been pretty varied I guess, anywhere from indie (although Animal Collective is quite weird and Stereolab is immensly Kraut inspired, listen to Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements, it's like modern Neu!, but not regressive or anything) to RIO.
 
Then check out this band I mentioned earlier in this thread:
 
I'd like to recommend a stunning album I've come across by Danish band Svartbag and their s/t album.
Fantastic experimental/ambient/electronic/avant/drone/psych...
 
Here's their bio from their Myspace:
About Svartbag
A.REX and Niels Ladefoged founded Svartbag in 2002. The musical inspiration is based on a profound interest in early minimalists, noise, British shoegaze and early German kraut-rock. The band later expanded to three members with Peter Kyed on treatments (real-sound, drones and electronic beats) and occasionally four with Andreas Hauer-Jensen (Dureforsog, Ordklover, Mit Nye Band & Alle med Balloner og Terrasser) on drums.
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A.REX has, since 1979, been prevalent on the punk scene of Copenhagen in bands like Mad Gustav Band, Warshore, The Tide and The Bleeder Group. Under his own name he has, among other things, composed music for Nicolas Winding-Refn’s film “Pusher 2”.

Peter Kyed has collaborated for a number of years with Peter Peter (ex-Sort Sol/The Bleeder Group) on soundtracks for a number of films and computer games. Additionally, he is a member of The Bleeder Group and has released the solo album “The World Inside Her”.

Niels Ladefoged has been part of the organization Subotnick since 2002 and has in this context taken part in planning and executing more than 300 experimental concerts.
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Svartbags music can best be described as sonic drones, analogue noise and repetitive space-rock with a touch of ambient and electronica. The music spans from dark and disturbing conditions to minimalistic melodies and rhythmic sequences. Svartbags live-performances are therefore also characterized as long, fluent, dynamical and epical.
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Svartbag has played concerts at mostly smaller venues in Copenhagen and two times at the Norberg Festival in Sweden in 2003 and 2004. Svartbag played at Roskilde Festival on the Metropol stage in 2005.
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At Norberg the Swedish Fat Bank Roll wrote: "Later Saturday night the Danish band Svartbag played a concert, which was one the highlights of the festival. With two guitars and all different kinds of electronic merchandise they produced very beautiful soundscapes, with small hints of rhythmic flows. Gentle, delicate, very nice..."
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At the concert at Roskilde festival the Danish music magazine Geiger wrote: "The drones take you within the architecture of music. The modulations, the substantial drumming and the deep drones from the guitars, set every body cell in vibration. It..s noisy, harsh and pleasant at the same time. A weird, but never the less a good feeling. Keep an eye on them.."

All the slashes add up to something that sounds really promising, I'll check the samples out once this song ends.  Thanks for the recommendation!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:30
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

M., Mike and Patrick: Ahvak

That's your next purchase.

Excellent in all respects.

Oh, I see - you are our arbiter elegantiae of music purchases... Confused LOL

What's it like?


I'm not feeling very wordy today: excellent

LOL

Trust me, you'll love it.  Very original sound for chamber prog. Big%20smile  Kerman plays on drums for it.  Very well composed and better than Far Corner and NeBeLNeST.

Isn't it middle-eastern sounding?  Or maybe I'm just assuming that because of the band name, but I listened to samples a while ago and I hope time hasn't distorted my memory too much. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:31
Also, the new Olive Mess album has been released by Mellow Records and there's a track to be listened to here:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:32
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

I got Happy Family's Toscco a few days ago in the mail.  I need to give it a few more spins before I can evaluate it, but I enjoy it so far.  It doesn't seem as obviously Zeuhl as Koenjihyakkei, but I guess it belongs there more than anywhere else, I hear the debut is less crazy and more Magma-esque.

Also received Univers Zero's debut, the 08 remix/remastered edition.  It's quite fantastic, almost as excellent and dark as Heresie judging by early impressions.

And U Totem's debut too.  It's a kind of longer album so I was nodding off because of the heat and stuff, but from what I gathered when full conscious, it's pretty incredible and unique mix of chamber music, avant-garde, and female somewhat poppy vocals but it works well.
 
 
U Totem's s/t album is in my opinion one of the best albums I've heard.
Fabulous compositions and arrangements, brilliantly layered.
Well, I won't go too much into it, you can read the review I wrote for it.
 
Anyway, I think it's a must for any avant-rock fan!


YES!  I agree absolutely.  I was going to reply similarly, but wanted to see if anyone else would herald U Totem's S/T as the brilliant masterpiece that it is!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:33
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

M., Mike and Patrick: Ahvak

That's your next purchase.

Excellent in all respects.

Oh, I see - you are our arbiter elegantiae of music purchases... Confused LOL

What's it like?


I'm not feeling very wordy today: excellent

LOL

Trust me, you'll love it.  Very original sound for chamber prog. Big%20smile  Kerman plays on drums for it.  Very well composed and better than Far Corner and NeBeLNeST.

Isn't it middle-eastern sounding?  Or maybe I'm just assuming that because of the band name, but I listened to samples a while ago and I hope time hasn't distorted my memory too much. Ouch
 
No, it's Present-influenced, chamber-rock
And excellent at that!!!
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:34
Svartbag sounds pretty awesome, I've only listened to one song so far.  Where would I be able to purchase their album(s)?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:35
Ahvak- one of the earliest RIO discs I ever bought.....and to this day, one of the best!  highly recommended!  excellent lineup too!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:37
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Svartbag sounds pretty awesome, I've only listened to one song so far.  Where would I be able to purchase their album(s)?
 
Not sure (I received it as a promo), maybe on some of those download services (Emusic et al.) but, let me  PM you first with some more details so you can decide better.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:40
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

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Whenever I listen to Univers Zero at night on my bed on the stereo, I can't help but think of these really vivid fantasies of mysterious cult evil sorcerers getting together in the woods and jamming.

Present gave me a mental image of elegant vampires. LOL

I enjoy Present a lot, but Univers Zero's music is truly transcendent... to me at least (and others, I'd imagine).  They are unique in the fact that, depending on my mood and the time of day night, their music can either totally creep me out or not at all, but no matter what it brings about true cerebral and musical bliss, albeit a much darker bliss than anything else. Wink

I just know UZ is going to grow on me*.  One of those things that needs to be heard a few times before you completely 'get' it, maybe...

So far I find I have to be in the mood for it - not so much being in the mood to hear something 'dark' (I never thought I'd like dark music, but it seems I do, regardless of mood...), more like wanting to hear something unapologetically complicated.  I have to get my ear in!  Present is more immediate to me, more spacious/less crammed with detail...

(*Like mould on damp plaster. LOL)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:42
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


Whenever I listen to Univers Zero at night on my bed on the stereo, I can't help but think of these really vivid fantasies of mysterious cult evil sorcerers getting together in the woods and jamming.

Present gave me a mental image of elegant vampires. LOL

I enjoy Present a lot, but Univers Zero's music is truly transcendent... to me at least (and others, I'd imagine).  They are unique in the fact that, depending on my mood and the time of day night, their music can either totally creep me out or not at all, but no matter what it brings about true cerebral and musical bliss, albeit a much darker bliss than anything else. Wink

I just know UZ is going to grow on me*.  One of those things that needs to be heard a few times before you completely 'get' it, maybe...

So far I find I have to be in the mood for it - not so much being in the mood to hear something 'dark' (I never thought I'd like dark music, but it seems I do, regardless of mood...), more like wanting to hear something unapologetically complicated.  I have to get my ear in!  Present is more immediate to me, more spacious/less crammed with detail...

(*Like mould on damp plaster. LOL)
 
Funny, it's similar with me and my ears...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:43
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:


 it's [Ahvak] Present-influenced, chamber-rock
And excellent at that!!!

Cool, I may have to get this one! Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 12:51
This Marcoeur stuff is...

I actually can't think of a word.

Kind of... musical ADD. Tongue  Imagine about three different weird dreams flashing through your mind all at once, at least one of them involving kitchen implements being abused horribly and French people shouting at you.

Also, the sound of the recording is not 1970s-sounding at all.  Has a precise, analytical, crisp feel.  Does that make sense??!! Confused

It's fun! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 13:13
I think you may enjoy Pascal Comelade as well, he also likes toy instruments, as do Etron Fou Leloublan.

Comelade also is hugely influenced by Robert Wyatt and has done many covers of his works.

Etron Fou however are a wee bit more menacing but not in a bad way, in a fun one.  It's just their debut is... well, not easy on the ears.  They get more listenable with their second album.

But yes, you need Ahvak.

It is Present-influenced but it's smartly composed, never gets dull and there's one particular section that just impresses me every time.

Althought having said that, I've since heard White Zombie do something similar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 13:51
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


Sounds good, but since I have Caution Radiation on the digipak CD (with a horribly translated liner notes!), it would make sense to just buy the other three separately.


Depends on the price (obviously).  I was able to pick up this compilation for $50; one wonders if you wouldn't spend more than that trying to acquire the albums separately.  Maybe you found a better source for them then I did, though.  I love compilations that include full albums, though, it can be such a great value - for example I spent $30 on the National Health Complete, where I'm pretty sure I couldn't have acquired the albums separately for $10/ea. (or even the first two for $15/ea.).

edit:  of course, another consideration is if you enjoy having the proper separate physical albums/CDs (for instance, this Area box randomizes song order across the 3 CDs instead of going album by album)...doesn't bother me that I don't, but I could see how others might feel differently.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 13:54
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Imagine about three different weird dreams flashing through your mind all at once, at least one of them involving kitchen implements being abused horribly and French people shouting at you.



This has to be one of the best one sentence reviews I've ever read.  Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 14:23
Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

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U Totem's s/t album is in my opinion one of the best albums I've heard.
Fabulous compositions and arrangements, brilliantly layered.
Well, I won't go too much into it, you can read the review I wrote for it.
 
Anyway, I think it's a must for any avant-rock fan!


YES!  I agree absolutely.  I was going to reply similarly, but wanted to see if anyone else would herald U Totem's S/T as the brilliant masterpiece that it is!!!!!
 
I utterly concur!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 14:41
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Imagine about three different weird dreams flashing through your mind all at once, at least one of them involving kitchen implements being abused horribly and French people shouting at you.

This has to be one of the best one sentence reviews I've ever read.  Big%20smile

Hehe, thanks Pat! Embarrassed Big%20smile

[Excuse delayed response... I've been recording a song! Big%20smile]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 15:11
I've had that nightmare, Melissa. LOL

The thing is, Phil Collins was the background music, not Univers Zero. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 15:13
Oh yes and the title for my future non-existent Infernal Machina review will be: 21st Century Schizoid Zeuhl
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