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Equality 7-2521 
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I'm going for either that or improper error analysis.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 17:22 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 17:38 |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 10:58 |
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It seems illogical to you as a man intimately familiar with theoretical physics? What's illogical about it?
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Slartibartfast
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 The notion that there is an ultimate speed at which things cannot travel faster than. And isn't theoretical physics all about challenging the notions of accepted physics? Once upon a time things couldn't travel faster than the speed of sound. Edited by Slartibartfast - September 24 2011 at 13:41 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 13:11 |
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I wish I could not be retarded about math and physics. Then I could do more than just nod and smile at news like that.
That's why I like biology. Sure there's probability and probably complex models for ecosystems, but it's more intuitive than physics.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 13:39 |
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DuPont's Herbicide Goes Rogue
DuPont: "We are investigating the reports of these unfavorable tree symptoms," A Billionaires' Coup in the US: Debt Deal Will Hurt the Poorest Americans, Convinced by Fox and the Tea Party to Act Against Their Own Welfare Edited by Slartibartfast - September 24 2011 at 14:47 |
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timothy leary
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 14:43 |
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No reason to use poisons on the landscape. Laziness. Unwanted plants on our property get dug out by the root, no root, no grow.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 14:47 |
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I'm kind of thinking there is no such thing as a magic poison.
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Show me the published, peer-reviewed physics paper that demonstrated that nothing could exceed the speed of sound. |
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http://news.yahoo.com/american-allergy-global-warming-why-171043981.html
For the global warming nay sayers just keep saying no...........
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Seriously. There was difficulty in humans building a plane that could break the sound barrier, and concerns that the person inside that plane would survive when it did, but comparing that to the speed of light is ludicrous. The tip of a whip breaks the sound barrier when it cracks, there was never a time when we thought sound the maximum speed of the universe. However, I don't know much about this experiment. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Equality 7-2521
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Why is that on its face illogical? Why is a limit on speed so illogical, but a limit on space and time completely normal? I find it hard to call something illogical when the theory itself explains so much and follows from a very unassuming principle.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:15 |
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While you can cut the military's budget, I think we all know the money hogs that would be cut in a situation like that are Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And poor people benefit from those programs much more than the rich or middle class.
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^I understand and it can be seen that way but even then: in one case you're taking more money already earned by a group of people to give it to another; in the second case, you're giving less money earned by the first group to the second. You are not in any instance taking away money that they earned.
Anyway, I qualify as poor so don't think I'm saying this because I'm rich. Social programs can't be cut overnight but you have to start one day. And if that idiot means what you said, it still is a fact that you can cut other programs and spending without "taking money from the poor". |
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Ooops, my bad, I meant to say logical.  Edited by Slartibartfast - September 24 2011 at 19:01 |
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Interesting, what are the extents to which space and time can go? And if we haven't been to those limits how can we ever know for sure? The theory that was light being the maximum speed was busted as soon as particle(s) were observed going faster than the speed of light. Edited by Slartibartfast - September 24 2011 at 19:01 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 19:25 |
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^Inflation goes faster than the speed of light
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 19:36 |
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That hasn't been observed yet. We've observed something that could have been a particle traveling faster than the speed of light. In either case, that's a really naive statement of the principle. A better formulation would be that information can not travel faster than the speed of light. Sometimes observations can be shielded so that even though something has broken the barrier, no information can be transmitted and this does not violate the principle. Well if you believe in the standard cosmology model, you obviously believe that space is finite. Also, what is logical about faster than light travel? It essentially forces us to abandon a traditional concept of cause and effect.
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