^^^ People will accept anything in the name of security, especially if such measures are introduced gradually, over years. The notion of a police state in the US, or Europe is still laughable to most people. If things are moving in that direction, by the time it's implemented fully, it'll be too late to wake up to it.

The tenth anniversary of 9/11 was always going to be a significant date in the terrorists calendar, and it would probably be foolish to think that there would be no plots hatched for the event. But, flooding the streets of Manhattan with police cars is more a show of strength for the publics benefit, rather than an effective deterrent to an attack. The cynic in me thinks it's more to do with getting the public used to sight of a heavy police presence on the streets.

^^^ Not much you can say about that really. We know already that the IPCC have exagerated findings and/or ommitted certain facts from their published reports, to bolster their claims. But that doesn't mean their claims are wrong. It merely means that in their haste to get their message across they made a bad call and decided to lie, knowing that any criticism of the IPCC is tantamount to holocaust denial thes days.

Even within a large scientific community where there appears to be a consensus on any issue, there will always be some disagreement, but the smaller the number of people dissagreeing with the majority, the less likely you are to hear their arguments. While it may be foolish to believe something solely because the majority of other people believe in it, there is a strong argument for taking prudent pre-cautionary measures to counter the worse case scenario. In any case, conservation of natural resources is simply common sense, global warming arguments aside. The idea of simply impoversihing people and businesss through carbon taxes is counter productive and immoral in my opinion.

Slartibartfast wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: Republicanism is a sham. So a Nobel prize winner in physics is suddenly an expert on climate science?  Even if man causing global warming isn't a certainty the one thing you can count on is that this guy will die rich from all the money he'll be raking in from Fox News and all the other climate wrecking corporations before the planet becomes uninhabitable.

Finnforest wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/09/1940s-color-photographs-of-new-york-city/

Strange seeing that and realizing it wasn't that long ago.

Demonstrators From Across Nation Descend On NYC To ‘Occupy’ Wall Street

Slartibartfast wrote: "Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., today introduced a bill that, if passed by Congress and signed by the president, would insure Social Security's solvency for the next 75 years—without having to cut a single person's benefit. Sanders' solution is simple: gradually eliminate the cap on wages subject to the payroll tax, starting with people earning more than a quarter-million a year." They say they want a flat tax, why not start here? Equality 7-2521 wrote: Republicanism is a sham. So a Nobel prize winner in physics is suddenly an expert on climate science?  Even if man causing global warming isn't a certainty the one thing you can count on is that this guy will die rich from all the money he'll be raking in from Fox News and all the other climate wrecking corporations before the planet becomes uninhabitable. In a related story:Boehner's Funding From Coal Up 2,400%

The T wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: [QUOTE=Equality 7-2521]Republicanism is a sham. So a Nobel prize winner in physics is suddenly an expert on climate science?  Even if man causing global warming isn't a certainty the one thing you can count on is that this guy will die rich from all the money he'll be raking in from Fox News and all the other climate wrecking corporations before the planet becomes uninhabitable.

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^I guess Slarti you have no clue what the scientific method is or have never taken any 101 class on the subject.

Good to see Jimmy Carter is still around making a difference.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/15/jimmy_carter_likes_mitt_romney_for_gop_nomination.html

Good to know that you're content with people thinking for you. You don't need to be a climate expert to have basic reasoning skills.