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I'm a Jehovah Witness and I believe the giant universe was made to the expansion of human life. Unfortunattely we're imperfect and dying. But I believe the earth will be restored. So I hope some day travel beyond space. 
And please, don't say I'm madly fantasizing since a lot of people believe in UFOs and X Files themes hahah Smile
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

An interesting documentary.


Does this answer any of the questions I asked you previously? ... I guess not. You carry on avoiding the questions, your silence would probably speak volumes but I'd much rather hear it from your own mouth.




I really do hope that this video (which I will not be watching) does not glorify the activities of the Nazi "scientists" and their research into the occult. Even the dumbed-down Indian Jones films fail to depict just how unpleasantly evil those b*****s were.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2014 at 08:38
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

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The only time you have offered an opinion from your own mouth it was to repeat an often repeated error that people of the 1600's thought the world was flat, (...)
Sadly enough, it's not my opinion. The fact is that a common beliefe in Europe countries that the Earth is not round was going strong untill almost recent times. 



Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the Earth (damn accurately) in 200 BC. F'ing Ptolemy lived in the 100s AD. He's notable for writing one of the most influential astronomical texts in history where he advanced many pieces of evidence for a spherical Earth.

Ancients were great astronomers, navigators, and surveyors because they needed to be. These fields lead you quite bluntly to the conclusion that the earth is spherical.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2014 at 09:04
I just flicked through the above Nazi film at random and came across references to:

Occult development of unconventional weapons
Studies of paranormal abilities withing the organisation
The use of paranormal abilities to contact unknown beings


Plus the quote:

"there are no records on what this department was working on or what results if any were achieved"

To be honest, it sounds more like a precis of Brian Lumley's (excellent BTW) novel - 'Necroscope'.

...yes, I know I've taken quotes out of context on a subject I know little of, but isn't that what UFO study is all about?

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"Oh, hi! Yeah, I need an authentic nazi flying saucer for a piece I'm writing"

"Like this...?":


"Well, it looks like a painting, could you perhaps make it look a bitmore like a real photograph?"

"sure, like this?":


"Oh, that's much better, only problem is it doesn't look very 1940s does it, can you age it?"

"Oh, better than that, I can add some nazi generals if you want...."


Yes! that's much better - now don't tell anyone you faked this. Right?"







I found each of these images separately on the Internet, I have only resized them to make them all the same size, no other doctoring has been done. Never believe anything you see in the media, on the internet or what a mate tells you down the pub. UFOologists are very good at questioning "the official story", they do not seem to be able to question anything else, a good sceptic questions everything.
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Points: 10616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:04
^ Amazing LOL
Thanks for putting us back on earth. Smile
Well, not that I was being carried away... 
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Of course, the last image could be the real one, photoshopped later to appear modern (ie reverse the [new] order of the photos) & discredit the obvious genuinuity of the original which shows without doubt (that's without doubt, Dean ) the Nazis not only knew all about space travel, but were in cahoots with nasty aliens to take over, not only the civilised world, but Alpha Centuri as well!

As even further proof:



Hmmmm?

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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:41
^The case is, as of right now, closed. I certainly don't need anymore proof. 
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I'm sure there's a two hour youtube video with dramatic music lifted from NCIS to explain why that picture actually really does seriously for real depict actual, as is, reality and totally legitimate history.
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^^  LOL That's the Asgard from Stargate SG-1, how clever of the show's producers to copy their ancient astronaut from that obviously authentic piece of nazi memorabilia.
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Stargate SG1?

I didn't know Stargate had a Stevenage post-code

Mind you, this would explain some of the stranger life-forms I've seen in the town centre of a Saturday

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'ang on! I work in SG1

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Stargate SG1?

I didn't know Stargate had a Stevenage post-code

Mind you, this would explain some of the stranger life-forms I've seen in the town centre of a Saturday
Ah, I thought, this is a topic of potentially high comedic value, there must be some local landmark that could be MacGyvered into a humorous wormhole come stargate tale ...  so I typed "Stevenage places of interest" into Google and it showed me the A1(M) bypass. Ouch So then I looked at some random images but all I could find were pictures that appear to date from the late 60s and early 70s. 

Hmm, I suspect there is a conspiratorial cover-up going on here, as we can see from this video, Stevenage is twinned with Stepford.




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The green double decker bus with a smiling driver.

Proof.

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By the way, I have through Fortean Times found out that the "earthquake lights" hypothesis put forth as an explanation of certain UFO sightings has finally yielded some actual evidence to back it up.
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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

By the way, I have through Fortean Times found out that the "earthquake lights" hypothesis put forth as an explanation of certain UFO sightings has finally yielded some actual evidence to back it up.
The idea has been around since the early 90s but because it is stochstic it is impossible to predict when it will appear so gathering evidence is always "after the event", but at least the anecdotal evidence can be correlated against seismic activity. Finding something supporting data to correlated with is harder for other UFO explanations.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Okay. I'll try again.

Question 1: Svetonio, have you watched the longer video yourself? A simple Yes or No.

Question 2: Svetonio, do you believe the map is 100% accurate? A simple Yes or No.

Question 3: Svetonio, do you believe the map reveal information that Piri Reis could not have known from other earlier maps? A simple Yes or No.



So... all I ask is three words from you. If you can find a YouTube video of those three one-word answers I will permit that as your answer. Stern Smile
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Points: 1420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2014 at 05:45
Do you remember Hangar 18? The movie, not the song. Hahaha the grand finale rules.
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Points: 65416 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2014 at 05:54
^ I'm aghast to admit going to see it in a theater, I must've been about thirteen, wasn't impressed
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Points: 1420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2014 at 06:04
The movie is boring til the end. The final scene randomly kills everything before the UFO mistery ends. I laughed hard. 
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2014 at 06:26
Saw it back in the day and promptly forgot about it, another around that time was Capricorn One, that too was pretty laughable but the conspiracy theory that inspired it persists despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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