Shed 2 (The Gazebo)

Jim Garten wrote: Man Erg wrote: Then again,the pub was bang slap in the middle of the moors. And no, it wasn't called The Slaughtered Lamb. "those be them ProgArchives types - go-on Jethro, put that there Pallas album on" Note a very young Rik Mayall there, too...

Right 'e are,Jed.That should sort 'em Grockles out.

^     ^^   etc

i'll get me smock

I've just bought three of The Beatles remasters (A Hard Days Night,Revolver and 'The White Album'.)Can't wait to hear them after all the hype.Apparently they are much better than the MFSL and Japanese versions! We'll see.

I think that I shall buy the stereo versions in weekly batches and hopefully Father Christmas will bring me the mono boxset...if it is still available by then.

mystic fred wrote: Man Erg wrote: It will be interesting to see how the Eden Project has matured since we last visited around 9 years ago. The Lost Gardens of Heligan is also on the itinerary. Hope we can find them.   Heligan gardens are a must see !   i was a bit unimpressed with Eden project , a bit too p.c. - maybe it's developed a bit since 2003

Hmmm - I did wonder that about Eden Project (maybe a bit full of yoghurt knitters ) - I think Heligan's a possibility though

i read in Record Collector all the albums were remastered in 24 bit but have only been released on 16 bit CD....for now

Man Erg wrote: I've just bought three of The Beatles remasters (A Hard Days Night,Revolver and 'The White Album'.)Can't wait to hear them after all the hype.Apparently they are much better than the MFSL and Japanese versions! We'll see. I think that I shall buy the stereo versions in weekly batches and hopefully Father Christmas will bring me the mono boxset...if it is still available by then.

Yesterday our national pop professor was on television, trying to explain what the results of the remastering process was. After 5 or 6 'before and after' listens on specific tracks, he could only agree with the people in the studio that the difference was negligable, unless you listen in isolation on top notch equipment. I wonder....

Angelo wrote: Man Erg wrote: I've just bought three of The Beatles remasters (A Hard Days Night,Revolver and 'The White Album'.)Can't wait to hear them after all the hype.Apparently they are much better than the MFSL and Japanese versions! We'll see. I think that I shall buy the stereo versions in weekly batches and hopefully Father Christmas will bring me the mono boxset...if it is still available by then. Yesterday our national pop professor was on television, trying to explain what the results of the remastering process was. After 5 or 6 'before and after' listens on specific tracks, he could only agree with the people in the studio that the difference was negligable, unless you listen in isolation on top notch equipment. I wonder....

Apple Goes a Bit Pear-Shaped

I would go as far as saying that the boffins at Capitol/Abbey Road have missed a trick.They have fallen at the first fence.
There should be a sticker on the albums from Rubber Soul through to and including Revolver saying 'Buyer Beware!'
There is a bit more punch and they are less tinny,but they (the remasterers) have not sorted out the vocal seperation that has blighted the stereo cds since they were issued.

For example; Revolver. 'Eleanor Rigby' Paul McCartney keeps his voice in a jar by the door in the corner of a very large room. The seperation/channeling of McCartney's vocals is so extreme that I checked the input connection on my speakers! Listening to it on head/earphones is useless. In these times where most people listen to music on headphones,you would think that the boffins would have considered this.
A few tracks on Revolver suffer badly from seperation but,suprisingly,most of the tracks had the vocals double tracked left and right and sound fine.

I am still going to buy the first four albums, I bought A Hard Days Night and that sound very good, and I will also buy the albums from Sgt Pepper onwards. The reason for this is that the first four albums were never rebungled for stereo and the last four were recorded when the Fab Four suddenly took an interest in stereo recording.Previously,the band never wanted the albums to be recorded/mastered in stereo.

I have 'Japanese' 'remasters' in mono and stereo of all of the Beatles albums and I must say that on the whole I prefer the mono versions.
They have a warmer,fuller sound. The White album sounds great both in stereo and in mono. The subsequent albums were never recorded in mono.   

Back To Mono

Edited by Man Erg - September 10 2009 at 02:24

Neil wrote: That wasn't a fault 'though.  That's how the fab four (and an awful lot of sixties bands) chose to make use of the stereo format.

Hi Neil,

I was of the understanding that the Fab Four weren't interested in the stereo format* until around Sgt Peppers/White Album and were never present at the stereo mix-downs for the albums before this period, i.e. upto and including Revolver.

* See 'Revolution in the Head'

I still have the original mono Beatle albums like a good Beatle fan    ( tucked away in a case) and bought stereo copies around 1970 - 72, i had a lot of fun isolating voices and various instruments using the balance control on my new stereo system i had saved up to buy.