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sleeper
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Posted: November 01 2016 at 06:01 |
Unfortunately it doesn't look like the Sporstcar team will get going until '18, so only the one race for him next year.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 01 2016 at 07:20 |
Sad what's happened with JPM but....can't blame em. You gotta produce on that team and I've no idea what the hell happened to him this year.
I personally like Newgarden a lot, so am very excited for him. He already managed 4th this season, so with this move hopefully he will become a title contender.
Also that's a shame for Munoz. I'd say that's a downgrade for him, and I liked him though guess he never did quite pan out. Good for Sato though.
Edited by JJLehto - November 01 2016 at 07:22
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sleeper
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Posted: November 01 2016 at 14:11 |
On the upside Foyt are switching to Chevrolete next year so maybe that will bring them a boost, it's why Sato left the team.
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Vompatti
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Posted: November 13 2016 at 12:58 |
Not much actual racing in Brazil today k
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 13 2016 at 13:47 |
Well...it's down to the wire.
Nico has a 12 point lead, so by my math he can afford to finish 3rd, if Lewis wins. Which is of course entirely realistic. Keeping the hope!
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sleeper
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Posted: November 13 2016 at 17:05 |
That was pretty damned spectacular from Max today, 14th to 3rd in about 15 laps!, and the move around the outside of Rosberg early on too. I think the only one on the same level as him today was Lewis.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 13 2016 at 17:20 |
Really good Brazilian GP today! I always enjoy the super rainy and wet races, though. Watching everyone slip and slide around is always fun, and Max definitely showed his wet weather skills today with his late race tear to get up to 3rd. That kid is going places!
NASCAR's Cup series had their next to last race today to set up the Championship 4 next week at Homestead. And wow, what an end to that one. I'm SO glad I'm not a Kenseth fan because he had it won before that next to last restart. It allowed Logano to win and advance and somehow, Kyle finished 2nd to advance on points to try and defend his title. The final 4 are Jimmie Johnson, Carl Edwards, Joey Logano and Kyle Busch.
Go Rowdy!!!
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sleeper
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 08:10 |
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Could be a good season, from what we saw in the first Barcelona test I'd say all 11 teams will be able to score points this year.
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Turns out this prediction I made in February was right, all 11 teams have scored points this year.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 14:38 |
sleeper wrote:
That was pretty damned spectacular from Max today, 14th to 3rd in about 15 laps!, and the move around the outside of Rosberg early on too. I think the only one on the same level as him today was Lewis.
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Hmm. Would Max do better at Ferrari? I don't see Kimi and Sab clicking with the car/team this year. Max could really shake that team up, me thinks.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 14:42 |
MillsLayne wrote:
Really good Brazilian GP today! I always enjoy the super rainy and wet races, though. Watching everyone slip and slide around is always fun, and Max definitely showed his wet weather skills today with his late race tear to get up to 3rd. That kid is going places!
NASCAR's Cup series had their next to last race today to set up the Championship 4 next week at Homestead. And wow, what an end to that one. I'm SO glad I'm not a Kenseth fan because he had it won before that next to last restart. It allowed Logano to win and advance and somehow, Kyle finished 2nd to advance on points to try and defend his title. The final 4 are Jimmie Johnson, Carl Edwards, Joey Logano and Kyle Busch.
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I'm completely happy with those four names. I suppose I'll root for Edwards, but really any of the four would be fine with me.
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 14:42 |
sleeper wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Could be a good season, from what we saw in the first Barcelona test I'd say all 11 teams will be able to score points this year.
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Turns out this prediction I made in February was right, all 11 teams have scored points this year.
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Wow! Well done league.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 15:21 |
Go Ricciardo
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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sleeper
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Posted: November 14 2016 at 16:25 |
SteveG wrote:
sleeper wrote:
That was pretty damned spectacular from Max today, 14th to 3rd in about 15 laps!, and the move around the outside of Rosberg early on too. I think the only one on the same level as him today was Lewis.
| Hmm. Would Max do better at Ferrari? I don't see Kimi and Sab clicking with the car/team this year. Max could really shake that team up, me thinks. |
Than Seb and Kimi are? Sure, better than he's currently doing, no as the Red Bull is a better car. Frankly Ferrari's problems start with their president Sergio Marchionne and go down from there, the team is back to the bad old days of political infighting and overly conservative designs out of fear of failure. Firing arguably the second best technical director in the sport, James Allison, because he couldn't gurantee fighting for the title within 3 years due to the need to restructure was a terrible decision. I reckon we'll see McLaren challenge for another title before Ferrari do.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 16 2016 at 17:09 |
Ferrari has peaked and are headed the wrong way. As good as Ricciardo and Verstappen are, I have a hard time believing they're better than two past champions in Vettel and Kimi.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 17 2016 at 05:35 |
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Ferrari has peaked and are headed the wrong way. As good as Ricciardo and Verstappen are, I have a hard time believing they're better than two past champions in Vettel and Kimi. |
Honestly, I've found Vettel to be extremely underwhelming since his last title. Ricciardo pasted him at Red Bull in '14, he was good last year but this year has made far too many mistake (5 turn 1 crashes this year, Russia being the only one you can't fault him for, various qualy sessions where he's admited to not getting the best from the car etc) and has turned into the whinniest man in the paddock. On current form I recon if you stuck him in a Mercedes he'd struggle to match Rosberg, let alone Hamilton. Raikkonen's an enigma. Currently he's driving better now than he has done since he left Lotus, but I'm unconvinced he has the speed that took him to the 07 title or convinced a number of long time McLaren personel that he was the fastest driver they'd ever seen.
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Vompatti
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Posted: November 17 2016 at 07:29 |
sleeper wrote:
MillsLayne wrote:
Ferrari has peaked and are headed the wrong way. As good as Ricciardo and Verstappen are, I have a hard time believing they're better than two past champions in Vettel and Kimi. |
Honestly, I've found Vettel to be extremely underwhelming since his last title. Ricciardo pasted him at Red Bull in '14, he was good last year but this year has made far too many mistake (5 turn 1 crashes this year, Russia being the only one you can't fault him for, various qualy sessions where he's admited to not getting the best from the car etc) and has turned into the whinniest man in the paddock. On current form I recon if you stuck him in a Mercedes he'd struggle to match Rosberg, let alone Hamilton.
Raikkonen's an enigma. Currently he's driving better now than he has done since he left Lotus, but I'm unconvinced he has the speed that took him to the 07 title or convinced a number of long time McLaren personel that he was the fastest driver they'd ever seen.
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I think Räikkönen is one of the drivers who's very fast when the car is exactly how he likes it and only moderately fast otherwise. Plus Ferrari has ruined a lot of races this year with bad strategy and failed pit stops.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 17 2016 at 07:50 |
Vompatti wrote:
sleeper wrote:
MillsLayne wrote:
Ferrari has peaked and are headed the wrong way. As good as Ricciardo and Verstappen are, I have a hard time believing they're better than two past champions in Vettel and Kimi. |
Honestly, I've found Vettel to be extremely underwhelming since his last title. Ricciardo pasted him at Red Bull in '14, he was good last year but this year has made far too many mistake (5 turn 1 crashes this year, Russia being the only one you can't fault him for, various qualy sessions where he's admited to not getting the best from the car etc) and has turned into the whinniest man in the paddock. On current form I recon if you stuck him in a Mercedes he'd struggle to match Rosberg, let alone Hamilton.
Raikkonen's an enigma. Currently he's driving better now than he has done since he left Lotus, but I'm unconvinced he has the speed that took him to the 07 title or convinced a number of long time McLaren personel that he was the fastest driver they'd ever seen.
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I think Räikkönen is one of the drivers who's very fast when the car is exactly how he likes it and only moderately fast otherwise. Plus Ferrari has ruined a lot of races this year with bad strategy and failed pit stops.
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I don't know, up to the end of 2005 he was without doubt the fastest man in F1, but he hated the understeery nature of the 06 car and didn't really look like he was trying that hard, just counting down the days till he joined Ferrari. With Ferrari he was never able to replicate that blinding one lap speed on Bridgestone tyres but towards the end of a stint he'd be the fastest guy out there. Since his return with Lotus he's been good, at times one of the best, I've never really got the feeling that he was the force of nature he used to be, by the end of '13 Grosjean was outperforming him and the last 2 years at Ferrari were pretty dire.
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SteveG
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Posted: November 17 2016 at 12:36 |
MillsLayne wrote:
Ferrari has peaked and are headed the wrong way. As good as Ricciardo and Verstappen are, I have a hard time believing they're better than two past champions in Vettel and Kimi. |
Strangely, I see just the polar opposite.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 20 2016 at 17:44 |
Jimmie Johnson won his 7th championship today. I'm so bummed right now...
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SteveG
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Posted: November 21 2016 at 04:21 |
As one broadcaster said (Kyle Petty?), we'll probably never have the chance to see someone win a 7th championship again. Especially with the new shoot out format. Congrads to Jimmy Johnson!
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