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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 12 2009 at 09:18 | ||
Yeah, I'm so glad I've tried hard and at last I could get this album...
Indeed this album has very little progressive sound but whatever we hear this is a good album.
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 12 2009 at 09:20 | ||
DamoXt7942
Special Collaborator Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 12 2009 at 18:15 | ||
I've searched this album in amazon.com and found it's very expensive...what a peaty.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: January 12 2009 at 18:28 | ||
John and Damo:
OSAGE TRIBE — Arrow Head
Review by sinkadotentree (john davie) Prog Reviewer Thanks to Todd who brought this band to my attention.I just wish i was as enthusiastic as he,Tom Ozric and Mikey are about this album.Don't get me wrong because this is very close to a 4 star record for me, but not quite.OSAGE TRIBE released this their only album back in 1972,they were a trio with the guitarist coming from NUOVA IDEA.The drummer went on to play for THE TRIP and I DIK DIK among others, while the bassist not only had a solo career but he played in IL VOLO as well.So yeah lots of talent here.The sound is very much heavy drums, and bass with raw sounding guitar. "Hajenhanhowa" opens with clashing cymbals and piano before soft vocals arrive before 2 minutes.Harmonica before 3 1/2 minutes.The song starts to come to life thankfully after 4 1/2 minutes.Guitar before 7 minutes. "Arrow Head" hits the ground running with bass,drums and gutar creating havoc.Vocals a minute in.This is an uptempo rocker. "Cerchio Di Luce" is more restrained with them contrasting the mellow sections with the raw guitar and drum passages.The bass actually sounds like an upright one later. "Soffici Bianchi Veli" opens with drums followed by a raw and aggressive soundscape.Nice guitar 2 minutes in as he lights it up.It settles with vocals before 3 1/2 minutes.Here we go after 6 minutes as it kicks back in.Vocals and a calm after 8 minutes. "Orizzonti Senta Fine" features bass,drums and restrained vocals early.The guitar starts to make some noise before 5 minutes.It calms right down after 7 minutes.I never include the bonus tracks when i rate an album, and in this case that's a good thing.Haha.The two songs are one in the same,one is the Italian version and the other is the English version. This is a good,bluesy flavoured album that is quite well done.3.5 stars. PAESE DEI BALOCCHI, IL — Il Paese dei Balocchi
Review by DamoXt7942 (DamoX) My frist impression of this art work was...DEPRESSIVE & DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. Suddenly this 'eavy guitarwork and dark strings...then what happened on IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI? I suggesut this early 70s' heavy Italian progressive rock ART should be one of albums which could open the RPI world. Lead guitar, bass, drum & percussion, keyboard and strings...there are many kinds of instrumentals, and all of them are heavy, dark, and depressive. Sometimes vocal can wrap the instrumentals but the atmosphere can't get clear or bright but darker and more depressive. Refraining dark phrases will make us listeners drop the depth down. And the album has finished as we can't stand our mind up. We can see another side of Italian progressive rock world and I'm sure it should be worth for listening as EARLY ITALIAN DARK PROG ART. In the Mellow label's reissue version are two bonus tracks. I beg your pardon but I think these bonus tracks are not worth for listening. How pop they are... At any rate, I can recommend you this album if you love depression or darkness and you're an Italian progressive rock freak...LIKE ME. :P Anyway, I'm at a loss whether I should give this album 3 stars or 4...to tell the truth, I wanna give 3.5 stars, essencially. |
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Raff
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Posted: January 12 2009 at 18:41 | ||
Just to debunk a myth about Italians being always sunny and cheerful (I can assure you it's far from true, especially nowadays), RPI albums can be pretty depressing stuff, especially in a lyrical sense. One of the subgenre's masterpieces, Jumbo's Vietato ai minori di 18 anni?, has some of the saddest lyrics I've ever heard. Every time I listen to the opening track, "Specchio", it makes me want to cry.
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 12 2009 at 21:40 | ||
Thanks Raff for your practical comment.
I cannot understand Italian (and most of Italian freaks out of Italy cannot too) so should try to FEEL
the depressing feeling of Italian Rock Music...for this feeling, should listen more and more.
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memowakeman
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 00:43 | ||
when i read that part in bold, i automatically thought about that Jumbo's album, what a great album and depressing indeed
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:14 | ||
Another DamoXt7942 great review:
RACCOMANDATA RICEVUTA RITORNO — Per... Un Mondo Di Cristallo
Review by DamoXt7942 (DamoX) Exploded Italian power, I'm amazed and beaten. RACCOMANDATA RICEVUTA RITORNO (RRR)'s power is suddenly changing states, I consider. Trust me not be deceived by the romantic pipe organ and flute sound in the beginning. Suddenly it will get to be rampant, and typical Italian progressive sound will be exploded. What is typical? RRR could have many sources of sound...rock (of course), jazz (on 4th track Nel Mio Quartiere is really rough and improvisational jazzy sound), classic, and Orient-like sound. All of sounds are well mixed and well matured, and the lump of sounds can knock us strongly and massively. Moreover, I wonder this sound concrete would be one of the origin of Italian progressive power. Palepoli by Osanna, or Darwin! by Banco, etc. may belong to same group as Per... Un Mondo Di Cristallo. Strangely, these three albums were born in the same year 1972. Whoa...I can't help sayin' 1972 was the most powerful year of RPI. Do I overevaluate? :P |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:18 | ||
Andrea, what are rhythmic soli? |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 21:05 | ||
Line-up/Musicians
- Gianni Nocenzi / clarinet, piano, keyboards That is, in Banco there are rhythmic double keyboards, aren't there?
Each of them can play with brilliant sense and ability, I consider. Edited by DamoXt7942 - January 14 2009 at 01:50 |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 21:14 | ||
I'm very glad that Italian progressive rock albums, that I've bought and reviewed these days, are great all.
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:17 | ||
Considering both points of view, the two keyboard player create complicated rhythms with keyboards (and synths) that remember me some games with the keyboards of Wakeman and Emerson. And frankly, they are outside the pure melody... It would be better to speak of virtuosism... But I like more to define them rhythmic soli! From this point I wrote this sentence.
What, then, is good for every Italian prog band! |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:24 | ||
IP reviews:
METAMORFOSI — Inferno
Review by DamoXt7942 (DamoX) Surely the point of this band's sound is bass guitar. I can't consider another point. The most expectable Italian classic progressive rock band METAMORFOSI's second album (and of course their masterpiece) Inferno is full of heavyness and darkness. What made the heavy and dark sound as the core of the band? I do consider the key is bass guitar, noisy and exploded bass guitar, like Chris Squire's (Yes). And Davide-Jimmy's tenor vocal with Canzone-like flavour is also very important. His voice will get louder and more shouting as the songs go forward. Variable rhythm sections and avantgarde & psychedelic keyboard sound can hit and attack us with bass and vocal. All of instrumentals are well- balanced and I wanna say there is no useless sound at all! The songs of this album are...no, IS ONE SUITE named INFERNO. Continuously and streamingly the suite can push and shake our heart and brain, then we should be absorbed into the METAMORFOSI world. At the last stage we can get chilled with the terrible ending...from start to end, we can't breathe enough, ha-haa! Some expression I told but, to tell the truth, my expression should be absolutely useless. YOU SHOULD LISTEN! THIS IS ONLY I WANNA SAY. :D Hey guys! This is a classic. I'm a huge Prog fan. 46 Years old, Old school, but not so old school that I don't appreciate Porcupine Tree, Mars Volta and even a little Spocks Beard or Dream Theater now and then. I've got most of the old great stuff from the 70s, and let me tell you. I think this is the best Prog album since The Wall. So the best Prog album in 28 years. And if you don't consider The Wall Prog, than lets say its the best Prog album since 1975's Wish You Were Here. Best Prog album in 33 Years!! OK you don't think Floyd is Prog, well you're wrong, but then lets say its the best Prog album since Lamb Lies Down On Broadway in 1974. 34 years!! Its just that great. Possibly you prefer a little more metal or hystronic vocals in your Prog. Well then this largely instrumental, yet guitar based music, won't be your favorite Prog album in 34 years, but if you dig the Canterbury bands, Passport, Bruford, Brand X, Weather Report, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes, I promise you'll love this masterpiece. Its almost fusion, but stays firmly on Progfirma! I don't know how they did it. Composing songs that bring out the best in what we love about 70s Prog, yet updating the sounds somewhat to be very now. Just great music, for people who need a little more than the pop chords/arrangements in their diet. Easily my favorite album (of any genre) of 2008. I just hope the boys in D.F.A. can read the great reviews they're getting here and places like Amazon.com, so they know they're reaching people. If have 4000 CDs/Lps of all genres, and its hard to get this boy too excited (this is my first review for this blog) these days, but D.F.A. did it for me. (can they read English? I hope so) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ P.s.: Interesting point of view about D.F.A.. But this is a correct review? Edited by Mandrakeroot - January 14 2009 at 04:27 |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:31 | ||
That is, you do emphasize the point that Banco's two keyboard players in Darwin! should have MORE THAN the technique of playing, don't you?
That's my thought.
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 05:18 | ||
With two keyboarder like these... All is possible!
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 06:35 | ||
Great opinion!
...Sorry, I'm now drunken and listenin' to INFERNO.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:19 | ||
Hi there!
I'm back, finally! How are you?
I've been for months without any available internet connection. Where I live now (with my wife) I'm going to have the chance to surf here and there and hope to make up for the lost time...
What a change in my life was being married and becoming a lawyer.
I will return to some work and joyful relaxation although not as much as I wish.
So many reviews and new albums added. And what a high standard of quality from you all.
I didn't stopto buy good music... hope to post soon a list of the most considerable items I got recently.
Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 14 2009 at 12:20 |
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:22 | ||
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:40 | ||
Andrea! We're doing good, I'm glad things are working out for you. Great to see you around. Two of your old RPI comrades have some news for you
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Signature Writers Guild on strike
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Raff
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 13:42 | ||
Ciao Andrea! So happy to see you again! Micky and I have been often wondering about you... There are good news on our front too - just look at my profile| |
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