The Italian Prog Appreciation den

gr8dane wrote: Somehow ended up on Aldo Pagliapietra formerly of Le Orme,with tis album Nella pietra enel Vento. Released in 2012.very melodic italo prog sounding. http://youtu.be/yz7Ut1Oo-5Q If you like Le Orme and need  a new fill,this will totaly do nicely.

Gr8dane, that Aldo album is a very decent! As you said, very melodic, it's accessible and sophisticated Italian pop/prog - not to mention it's got an AMAZING cover! I've got the CD, but I'm a little annoyed as it's just been given a vinyl release - now THAT is how that wonderful cover should have been presented in the first place!

I have a question - did you enjoy this solo album more or less than the recent Le Orme album `La Via Della Seta'?

Hmmm, that album seems familar, Pierre....I remember the cover with the dinosaurs for some reason!

I wonder, has it been re-released on vinyl, which might explain why I might have been looking it up sometime?

I don't think I've actually got it in my collection, though, otherwise I'm sure I would have come across it and given it a spin at some point.

I just checked, Pierre, Greg Walker's got it in at Syn-phonic, so I must have been looking at it/considering it when he got it in stock a while back.

Would you recommend grabbing a copy?

No, but I'm very curious! I'll give the Youtube clips a listen when I'm back at home!

Man, all these Youtube clips of lost and abandoned albums - I wish they offered you the option to download! We'd be able to full some gaps in our collections with these lost wonderful gems!

I just hope it means we get a nice steady run of reissues and re-releases on both CD and LP of Italian rarities over the years! Always happy to pay up for some unearthed treasures!

Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - November 19 2012 at 02:15

dreadpirateroberts wrote: Can't wait for it to arrive - it's gonna take at least 4 weeks but!

Hmmm, I'm sensing a lot of love for this title for several people, perhaps I should investigate as well!

Dread, I have to ask, where did you order this title from?!

Beautiful, indeed.  Great music, yes again.  But remember guys, to add a band to RPI it has to be progressive-rock first and foremost, not Italian pop, or just good rock music from an Italian singer-songwriter perspective.  "What is prog" will always be a contentious debate, and there may be examples of similar artists already on site, but we can't go by that, we have to look at each case anew and without the X=Y argument.  I listened to a few songs online and on Mat's site and I definitely hear some good music though I'm not quite convinced it's prog yet.  Neither Mat's nor Croce refer to him as a prog artist. 

He needs to have one or two albums that are solidly prog, at least enough to convince us that he should be added....when you guys get your album let us know if you think it fits that bill.  I'll try to do some more online listening when I have a chance.  Also, Todd may have the guys proggiest album already, he has a deeper collection than I do....if he does he can get it to the team members for evaluation.

Not trying to dampen enthusiasm for good music guys, just trying to answer the question why (perhaps) he has not been added yet.....maybe it's an oversight, but maybe previous incarnations of the team felt there wasn't enough "prog" in the equation to add him. 

Hi guys,

Ballata is not a prog album strictu sensu. So we (me and other former members of the team) never took seriously the idea of adding Ivan to the RPI sub.

It's more a singer-songwriter eclectic record of the seventies with prog touches here and there (jazzy, folk etc.). Sure it has its moments, though. Just listen to these tracks for examples. Unfortunately I can't find on youtube the 1976 version of Il Campo della Fiera.

I only own this album on cd and the followong I Lupi (1977), Agnese (1979), Viaggi e Intemperie (1980) and have to say that Ballata is the more interesting for lovers of (soft) italian prog.

The others are wonderful too (just look at my new avatar) but more pop.

We should check the albums from 1973, though.



1) I Giorni di Novembre




2) La Pazza sul Fiume





3) Donna della Terra




4) Trench




5) Dimmi ci Credi Tu







Edited by Andrea Cortese - November 19 2012 at 10:52

^^^

There are two albums from 1973: La Città che Io Vorrei and Tato Tomaso's Guitar.

Oh, no, the latter is from 1974.

Desperation is from 1973 as is La Città.


Edited by Andrea Cortese - November 19 2012 at 11:44

This is a CHRONOLOGICAL LISTING of works by Ivan during the first half of the seventies (before Ballata) I found on the net.

#	Year	Title	Authors	First Recaording	Edition	Note
1)	1973	Tato Tommaso Guitar (Album)	Ivan Graziani	Tato Tommaso Guitar
2)	1972	Dropout		single		recorded as Rockleberry Roll
3)	1972	True true		single		recorded as Rockleberry Roll
4)	1973	Hi Jack		single		recorded as  Rockleberry Roll
5)	1973	Give you all my love		single		recorded as Rockleberry Roll
6)	1973	Desperation	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
7)	1973	Like a boy I cried	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
8)	1973	Crystal Dale	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
9)	1973	For Julia	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
10)	1973	The message	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
11)	1973	Sometimes Maryanna	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
11,1)	1973	A volte in primavera	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei		Versione italiana di 'Sometimes Maryanna'
12)	1973	Hy Jack	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
13)	1973	Give you all my love	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
14)	1973	Stupid strong man	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
15)	1973	Guitar woman	Ivan Graziani	Desperation
16)	1973	Apertura	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
17)	1973	La città che vorrei	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
18)	1973	Tom Sawyer	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
19)	1973	Colori	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
20)	1973	L'età gratis	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
21)	1973	Nah! nah! nah!	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
22)	1973	Il campo della fiera	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
23)	1973	L'ubriaco	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
24)	1973	Luisa	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
25)	1973	A volte in primavera	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
26)	1973	Situazione	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
27)	1973	Chiusura	Ivan Graziani	La città che io vorrei
28)	1974	Longer is the beach	Ivan Graziani	single		recorded as Ivan & The Transport