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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 18:12
Tonight I am making a version of a pastel de choclo.  I've had success with a tamale pie, but this is more complex.  We are omitting olives and raisins (wife hates the former, we have none of the latter), but we're hoping it goes well.

Very protein intensive dish with chicken, ground beef, and boiled eggs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 19:11
Good grief that's a lot of pie Rob! Are you using just creamed sweet corn for the topping or are you thickening it up with extra cornmeal?
 
I don't like sweetcorn or polenta, so I may just have a go at this using mashed potato one day because the filling sounds good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 19:26
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Good grief that's a lot of pie Rob! Are you using just creamed sweet corn for the topping or are you thickening it up with extra cornmeal?
 
I don't like sweetcorn or polenta, so I may just have a go at this using mashed potato one day because the filling sounds good.


I used no cornmeal, just sweet creamed corn (with some added sugar and powdered sugar on top).  In the oven, it crisped decently.

My wife very much enjoyed the supper, but I am on the fence about it.  It was my first try.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 19:58
Using mashed potato would make it a latin cottage pie eh? what's  spanish for cottage? Villa pie?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 20:50
Originally posted by Flyingsod Flyingsod wrote:

Using mashed potato would make it a latin cottage pie eh? what's  spanish for cottage? Villa pie?


Pastel de carne, or "meat pie." 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 02:04
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Flyingsod Flyingsod wrote:

Using mashed potato would make it a latin cottage pie eh? what's  spanish for cottage? Villa pie?


Pastel de carne, or "meat pie." 
pastel de papa (potato pie). [wikipedia]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 02:41
I sometimes make Aso Pao, but it's more like a Puerto Rican paella than actual pie
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 03:22
I made Pastel de Nata on Thursday - first had these in Lisbon earlier in the year and simply loved them. They're just egg custard tarts in a flaky pastry case that look a bit rough and ready and a little overcooked so aren't instantly appealing, but they are in every café and patisserie in Lisbon and the locals devour them. I don't like the custard tarts we make in the UK so wasn't that keen on trying them but my foodie curiosity got the better of me and I'm rather glad it did. We tried bring some home with us, but ate them on the plane before it landed in Heathrow so was determined to make them myself someday. After looking at several written recipes I found that YouTube is the best place to go as you need to see them being made to understand the techniques uses. I used shop-bought flaky pastry (because life's far too interesting to spend hours making your own) and creme fraiche instead of single cream, infusing the custard with orange zest before filling the pastry cases. The hard part for me was putting them in a stupidly hot oven, which went against the grain for me, but it's necessary to achieve that slightly burnt colour and caramelised flavour.
 
This is a stock photo of what they look like (mine didn't last long enough to register on a camera Wink):
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 17:03
Tonight, it's a b*****dization of braciole: Thinly sliced sirloin stuffed with whole milk mozzarella and spinach leaves, enjoyed with a mushroom risotto and bits of mozzarella on the side.

I'll be having Cabernet Sauvignon.Smile

My dear wife will likely be having caffeine-free diet Mountain Dew or some such abomination.  Ermm


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:29
^ sounds good - I've eaten braciole in Sicily and don't recall there being any cheese, but I can imagine the extra dimension that would give.
 
This evening I did pork char sui in the smoker/BBQ - pork fillet marinated for 3 hours in hoi-sin, soy sauce, honey, crushed garlic and grated fresh ginger then slow roasted in the smoker for a hour over a bowl of water - (I would have put fennel leaves in the water but the fennel in the garden isn't big enough to crop yet) - then once the meat was cooked through (internal temp of around 70°C) the smoker was disassembled down to a simple BBQ grill and the fillet seared off to give a nice caramelised finish. Rather than pull the pork to shreds, I simply sliced it and served it wrapped in iceberg lettuce leaves with shredded spring onion and cucumber batons drizzled with plum sauce - just like Peking Duck but with lettuce leaves instead of pancakes. Washed it down with a jug of Sangria because the weather here today was like being in Spain.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:31
^Sounds complex but superb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:41
^ you can just BBQ it - but I have a fear of undercooked pork so prefer to pre-cook it first (same with sausages and chicken - I never BBQ those buggers from raw, just too risky). Obviously I could have pre-cooked it in the oven then just finished it on the standard BBQ, but as I have a BBQ that can roast I might as well make the most of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:49
^Is that the "Smoker" you meant? Looks like a very good thing to  have. I do however BBQ from raw and have never had a problem. Did chicken today actually.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:52
is there still trichinosis in Britain?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:53
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

is there still trichinosis in Britain?

What is it? If there ever was  it passed me by.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 18:53
parasites in pigs

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 19:08
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

is there still trichinosis in Britain?

What is it? If there ever was  it passed me by.


Undercooked pork (pinkish) is OK in the US and UK as far as I know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 19:25
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parasites in pigs
also my band in high school, BTW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 19:41
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

is there still trichinosis in Britain?

What is it? If there ever was  it passed me by.


Undercooked pork (pinkish) is OK in the US and UK as far as I know.
Yep - probably as safe as houses now-a-days, but the things we are conditioned with as kids tends to stick with us all our lives - both my parents and Debs' would not eat undercooked pork or chicken and would never re-heat cold pork and that got drummed into us. With chicken it's more an issue of campylobacter bacteria causing food poisoning (and when you've had food poisoning once I can assure you you'll never want it a second time).
 
Pre-cooking most BBQ foods makes them taste better anyway IMO - it can also help retain moisture and stop the searing heat of the grill from drying out the meat, but it depends on what you are cooking and how you cook it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 19:49
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

is there still trichinosis in Britain?

What is it? If there ever was  it passed me by.


Undercooked pork (pinkish) is OK in the US and UK as far as I know.
Yep - probably as safe as houses now-a-days, but the things we are conditioned with as kids tends to stick with us all our lives - both my parents and Debs' would not eat undercooked pork or chicken and would never re-heat cold pork and that got drummed into us. With chicken it's more an issue of campylobacter bacteria causing food poisoning (and when you've had food poisoning once I can assure you you'll never want it a second time).
 
Pre-cooking most BBQ foods makes them taste better anyway IMO - it can also help retain moisture and stop the searing heat of the grill from drying out the meat, but it depends on what you are cooking and how you cook it.


I understand what you mean.

I've enjoyed food poisoning twice.  Once was after eating fried chicken from a grocery store.  Upon my complaint the next morning, the manager offered to replace the chicken.  Stern Smile

The other time was on vacation, but I ate from so many different cooks there that I have no idea what did it.  All I know is the Bed and Breakfast we stayed in was nasty on both accounts.

I would encourage you to have a nicely seasoned pork chop, light pink in the middle, and try it.  Much more flavorful and moist.  That's how we eat it and we're okay.  Smile
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