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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 06:46 | |
Vicky bought a Tesco chefs knife many years ago - actually a very good knife; keeps a great edge to it, but personally I found the blade a little thick (I think that's just personal preference though)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 06:50 | |
^I just looked at it, it says "George" so definitely bought in Asda. Fells good in the grip. I have some new ones I've yet to use actually.
I get quite excited by kitchen stuff. especially knives. I want to get a potato ricer.
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Dean
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:08 | |
My pet hate are serrated knives (Kitchen Devils - hawk...spit!) - the closest I get is the bread knife and that's more wavy than serrated.
I have two knife blocks that are full of indispensable ironwork. Discounting the palette knife, bread knife and Sabatier carving knife (and obligatory fork) which generally are single function (though the carving knife is pretty good for filleting and skinning fish) the two knives I use the most are a tried and tested 10" V Sabatier chefs knife that I've owned for about 30 years and an 6" Stellar santoku, which is bloody brilliant - when you first use one it seems like it's only good for slicing because the curve of the blade is too straight to get a decent rocking/chopping action going without snipping off your finger tips but once you get use to using it like that it does everything a good chefs knife can do.
Having "fallen in love" with the big santoku I bought a smaller one (sort of paring knife size) but I just don't get on as well with that, though slicing ripe tomatoes no presents no problem for it. I have one 8" chefs knife that I can't use at all, it took me a while to work out it had been sharpened with a left-handed bias.
As I do a lot of fish prep one day I'll buy myself a good fillet knife, but the carver I have has a pretty flexible blade and works quite well for now.
Two other "indispensable" knives I own are extremely old - the first is a 1951 National Service issue stainless steel table knife that has been reassigned to butter-spreading duty and the other is a wooden handled steak knife I bought from Woolworths when I went to Uni that is my weapon of choice for spud peeling.
All knives are sharpened with a steel - I've never owned any other kind of knife sharpener.
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Dean
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:14 | |
Debs bought a VinVac Pineapple Easy Slicer from Lakeland - my first reaction was "why?" as I can prep a pineapple in a few minutes using my santoku knife, but now I've used it I don't think I'll ever go back to usign a knife (I eat at least a pineapple a week -if you don't then it's not going to get a lot of use)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:42 | |
Yes, well, two people don't quite make for a whole kitchen staff. Yeah, back when Rachel Ray was new on the scene with her 30 minute meal program we tuned in on occasion and kind of noticed that there was no way in hell those took 30 minutes, she was obviously having a lot more done during those commercial breaks. But yes a good set of knives, the ultimate multi-taskers. Food prep. Murder weapons. Uh, maybe I've been watching a bit too much Law and Order. Edited by Slartibartfast - May 16 2012 at 07:45 |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:54 | |
With you on that; we had some Kitchen Devils some time ago; bloody awful things & there was a serrated one in that set - I still bear the scars! Vicky bought me the Japanese set after I bought a cheap(ish) santoku knife - as you say, they take some getting used to, but couldn't do without these in the kitchen now. |
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Dean
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:40 | |
Ah, yes, this was the one:
What mad man thought of putting a cutting edge on both sides of the blade?!?! Okay on a bayonet or for killing bear, but in the kitchen? Dreadful knife.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:24 | |
I'd forgotten that one! One of the front prongs came off when I was cutting some meat & it was just as well I noticed it as I was dishing up
No - the one I meant was this little monstrosity: Very sharp, but guaranteed to stick as you were cutting, with predictable & messy results. |
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Flyingsod
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Posted: May 16 2012 at 19:10 | |
I've got an R H Forschner I got in cullinary school in my teens. I know there are more expensive blades out there but I don't see the point as the Forschner is about perfect. Keeps its edge just fine, easy to sharpen, real wood handle ( I hate those synthetic things and good god whoever thought a stainless steel handle was a good idea for a knife?) and the classic chef knife shape is good for me since it does everything pretty easily.
Btw I installed a stereo in my kitchen. Its not the best one but its as good as most peoples (non music freaks) home stereos. I hate cooking in silence but I could see how listening to the family noise would be nice. Of course I would probaly be eager to drown them out IF I had kids :)
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 01:23 | |
yeah a sharp knife is a blessing and a curse, and a serrated edge can be nasty-- I collect folding-knives and my fingers have several little scars from where I've accidentally closed the knife to quickly. For cooking I like my Chinese cleaver, its got good weight but can handle gently too. Reminds me I need to go have a professional sharpening done.
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Dean
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 05:37 | |
things didn't go according to plan... This meal I chose to do single-handed because a) Debs was busy and b) it looked simple enough. Having already noticed the recipe called for pre-made pastry cases for the desert that we'd neglected to buy, I allowed myself extra time to make and blind-bake my own, which was fine and resulted in four very nice little cases for the tarts, which were going to be peach not pear as I don't like pears. And then having read the recipe through and realised that the food processor for grating the Parmesan cheese was next used to whip the egg-whites for the desert, which would mean washing up and thoroughly drying everything (you can't make meringues with any moisture in the bowl) or we'd be having cheesy peach tarts and that would be horrible, so I chose to hand grate the cheese in advance, thus avoiding any chance of panic or failure (or so I thought)...
As a result of all this pre-thought everything was going to plan - I was chill and in control, the pasta was merrily boiling away, the salad was prepared, the pancetta was crisping up nicely in a frying pan and the little peach meringues were browning-off happily in the oven. Until it came to time to remove the tarts from the oven, to discover that in our tiny kitchen I had nowhere to put them while I served up the main course, rather than stop and think, I entered into mild panic mode and ran around like a headless chicken until I decided to put them in the dining room and hope the cats didn't take a shine to them. On returning to the kitchen I discovered that in taking my eye off the panchetta for two minutes it was now strips of inedible charcoal - still in mild panic mode, rather than grab a pack of streaky bacon from the fridge and start again, I felt the best course of action was to berate the world and all who live on it, especially Jamie Oliver and his entire family, friends and pets and anyone associated him, all the employees at Magnet and Southern for supplying the previous owners of this house with such a crap kitchen design, the previous owners themselves for buying it, myself for buying the house (and kitchen) from them, my employer for giving me a job 30 years ago that resulted in me moving down to this forsaken corner of England where house prices are so high that a house with a tiny kitchen is all we could afford and Sainsbury's for selling panchetta that burns so easily... and Debs for reminding me not to get stressed and to think about my heart, which on reflection was sound and concerned advice and not worthy of my subsequent reaction...
Anyway, in her calm and collected way she rescued the situation by quickly frying up some bacon to scatter over the salad in a cheffy kind of way and the meal was eventually served.
And true to form, it tasted bloody wonderful, and the rum and coke I washed it down with was rather fine too.
Perhaps I will now consider piping soothing music into the kitchen while I cook.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 05:42 | |
Brilliant.
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Dean
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 06:04 | |
I should add that I'm not normally like that., it's just these recipes that seem to have an adverse affect on me, which is a shame because the food itself is faultless.
As some of my Facebook friends may have noticed I prepare Bento lunch boxes for Debs and myself most mornings, I haven't posted facebook pictures for a while as I've settled into a routine of meals that are essentially repeats with variations on what I've already shown. To make these I just get up a few minutes earlier than I used to and prepare everything fresh that morning - all calm and stress-free. Today it's lamb koftas (ground lamb, mint, parsley, onion and a pinch of cumin made into small balls and fried) with homemade hummus made from a tin of chick peas, garlic and some homemade tahini (toasted sesame seeds ground in a coffee grinder with a little olive oil) whizzed in a small food-processor, served with some soba noodles in a lemon dressing and a little green salad. Yesterday was teriaki chicken with seasoned rice... the chicken was the wings, thighs and drumsticks left-over from the chicken used to make the chicken and mushroom pie (I find it's cheaper to buy a whole chicken and bone it out myself than buying individual breast fillets, and I then get "left-overs" I can use in other recipes). All of this I do with the minimum of fuss and zero-stress, I even pride myself on being able to make quick on-the-spot substitutions when I find I'm lacking a particular ingredient, again without the histrionics and melodrama that accompanies following these "30 minute meal" recipes. Edited by Dean - May 17 2012 at 06:26 |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: May 17 2012 at 07:11 | |
That seems a perfectly reasonable course of action Incidents which cause a similar reaction in me: 1 - Someone's used my favorite knife and not washed it up 2 - Over enthusiastic stirring causes a spot of sauce to land on my shirt 3 - Yoghurt or cream splitting 4 - Dropping a utensil 5 - Cats hassling me to be fed whilst I'm cooking 6 - Anyone coming into the kitchen whilst I'm cooking 7 - Unexpected sneeze increasing the amount of pesto being prepared (it happened ) |
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refugee
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 12:38 | |
Oh dear …
Luckily no catastrophes occurred in our kitchen today. We made something new (at least to us): Baked salmon escalopes with orange-boiled fennel. The sauce was made with the orange juice (now with a hint of fennel) mixed with white wine and boiled down to a syrup before I stirred in cold, unsalted butter (don’t let it boil!), salt and pepper to taste and fresh basil. You may serve it with potatoes but we chose a fresh salad and bread. Beautiful to look at and very, very tasty. I may add that we had plenty of time. No stress. Our kitchen isn’t that big, but at least big enough for this. Coffee and cognac for dessert (after all it’s the Norwegian national day). Dean, have you ever written (or considered to write) a book? I would buy it! |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 12:46 | |
^Sounds delicious.
I made a mushroom and spinach lasagne.
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Angelo
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 14:29 | |
Sounds reasonable I stick to white Russians though. |
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Dean
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 16:43 | |
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 16:46 | |
For the third time in two weeks, it's eggplant Parmesan.
My wife says it's the best thing I make, and her mother and sister are here. I already made it once for my sister-in-law last week! |
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Flyingsod
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Posted: May 17 2012 at 19:02 | |
Sounds like you have a signature dish Epignosis. Mine was Cordon bleu. I learned to hate it because it ended up being requested like 3 times every two weeks. :) on the other hand its always nice to have things requested of you.
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