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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2008 at 13:51
I'd quite like a new category called Nu-Symph for bands such as Spock's Beard (which I equate with Neo-Prog as it is inspired by Genesis and has AOR/melodic rock/ pop qualities).

EDIT: Actually, I tend to feel that bands such as The Tangent (which is in Eclectic), Spock's Beard (which is in Symph), Neil Morse (which is in Symph), Izz (which is in Symph), Magenta (which is in Neo), Echolyn (which is in Symph), Iona (which is in Prog Folk) could be put together under an AOR/Melodic Prog category.

Just remembered: This site could be a useful reference for creating such a category (which could have Neo, and others, as a subcategory): http://www.melodicrock.com/


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2008 at 14:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I'd quite like a new category called Nu-Symph for bands such as Spock's Beard (which I equate with Neo-Prog as it is inspired by Genesis and has AOR/melodic rock/ pop qualities).

EDIT: Actually, I tend to feel that bands such as The Tangent (which is in Eclectic), Spock's Beard (which is in Symph), Neil Morse (which is in Symph), Izz (which is in Symph), Magenta (which is in Neo), Echolyn (which is in Symph), Iona (which is in Prog Folk) could be put together under an AOR/Melodic Prog category.

Just remembered: This site could be a useful reference for creating such a category (which could have Neo, and others, as a subcategory): http://www.melodicrock.com/
 
As a fact, we created that on Feb 18, 2007, but we didn't had time to implement it:
 
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I.- SYMPHONIC PROG ERAS:

 

 

2.      Neo-Symphonic: Somewhere in the mid '70s, a new sound began to emerge. The Classic era bands reached a peak of complexity and experimentation that was hard to accept by most fans, albums like Relayer by Yes or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway that today are considered masterpieces by own right, required a bit of time before being accepted by the audience.

The only alternative was to slow down or if possible place reverse speed and start to simplify a bit the sound and they took it,  in the case of Genesis it was a natural evolution because Peter Gabriel left the band and the sound of Phil Collins is much more transitional.

 

In the case of Yes it was a bit forced being that the complexity of Patrick Moraz had changed the sound of the band radically, so Rick Wakeman returned but he also had changed his sound giving the first steps towards the New Age music that he embraced in the 80’s and the final product was friendlier, the same happened with ELP that returned to their fan base after a 4 year sabbatical with Works, which included a very soft and ballad oriented Lake side.

 

General time frames: This period starts between  1975 and 1978 with the release of such albums as “A Trick of the Tail”, “Going for the One”, “Voyage of the Acolyte” or the already mentioned “Works Vol. I” and ends around 1990 with the fading of the Neo Prog peak.

 

 

 
Not as a new sub-genre (God knows the last thing we want are more sub-genres), but as a Symphonic era.
 
As soon as we finish the Neo cleaning (Now will be easier with BBeto back and DB helping us), now is the time, we have the OK from M@X.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2008 at 19:06
And what about new, neo-prog bands which are near Neo? Where does that leave near Neo bands which are not new Neo?

Let's not forget Neo bands which are neither new near Neo, nor not new but near Neo.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2008 at 19:10
Looks good, Ivan.

Simon, it's one humdinger of a conundrum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2008 at 02:01
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

And what about new, neo-prog bands which are near Neo? Where does that leave near Neo bands which are not new Neo?

Let's not forget Neo bands which are neither new near Neo, nor not new but near Neo.

This issue must be resolved at once!
 

Sigod, before making radical changes (Which must be approved by M@X), we need to have at least a bio for every band, and this is taking us a long time because the lack of information of many Neo bands, as a fact a good percentage doesn't have am official or unofficial website and some are not even mentioned in the web.

Remember that some of this bands were not only unpopular, but some released a demo or a cassette in the early/mid 80's (when the CD was not popular and the LP's were already rare).

We need to know what we have and, listen at least one album of each band before we take decisions, if not, we would be irresponsible.

Still we have many bands without bios, photo, website and not even a single review
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2008 at 07:01
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

And what about new, neo-prog bands which are near Neo? Where does that leave near Neo bands which are not new Neo?

Let's not forget Neo bands which are neither new near Neo, nor not new but near Neo.

This issue must be resolved at once!
 

Sigod, before making radical changes (Which must be approved by M@X), we need to have at least a bio for every band, and this is taking us a long time because the lack of information of many Neo bands, as a fact a good percentage doesn't have am official or unofficial website and some are not even mentioned in the web.

Remember that some of this bands were not only unpopular, but some released a demo or a cassette in the early/mid 80's (when the CD was not popular and the LP's were already rare).

We need to know what we have and, listen at least one album of each band before we take decisions, if not, we would be irresponsible.

Still we have many bands without bios, photo, website and not even a single review
 
Iván


Sorry Ivan mate. I was having a bit of fun with the english language back there. It was a joke designed to illustrate my personal frustration about the complexity and ultimate futility of defining endless sub-genres.

I should have put an Wink at the end (like I did just then) Wink and indeed, there too. Oh god, now I'm confusing the issue further. Confused It's really frustrating Angry. I really need to stop using the emoticons so much Embarrassed


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